Buying Guide - Former Agricultural Farm

  • Erstellt am 2024-01-09 09:45:31

andimann

2024-01-09 15:55:20
  • #1
Hello,



A friend of ours inherited a farm with a similar situation last year. The old farmer had also only been living there for 15 years, no plans for sewage connections, huge amounts of vehicles were stored, etc. That was all fine and was approved as is. But for a buyer or for our friend, the situation looks completely different. Simply using it as a residential house will not be allowed; she basically has to turn it back into a farm. And she is supposed to have 250 meters of sewage pipes installed...

Best regards,

Andreas
 

11ant

2024-01-09 16:11:25
  • #2
From my point of view, this is clearly an outdoor area, so "veterinarian profession" alone is not enough to justify a permissible use. I do not see any potential for at least an animal sanctuary here, and a "complete former farmstead" *LOL* certainly cannot be developed from it. The house has a good year of construction, which concerned me the least – but location, location, location. If it has allowed a co-heir to clutter it up, that speaks "rather against" it ;-)
Could it possibly have been a hoarder and "animal lover"? – ask the local newspaper and the nearest animal shelter what conditions prevailed there before the exposé was created (but only if you are curious – I don’t expect any decision-relevant information anymore).
Nobody will want to create anything there that could solidify this condition (which in my view is an ecological eyesore). A textbook example of a dispersed settlement. A chicken breeder's widow's seat in a parallel universe 100 m from a residential area, practically a (now no longer) inhabited hedge. You won’t even be able to count those who are glad when time beams this away.
At first glance a potential little idyll, but I don’t see that as being "sustainably" confirmed. It’s more likely to be suited to tearing yourself apart as a brave, sole, and last troublemaker until the village population chases you off the farm.
 

ypg

2024-01-09 16:31:25
  • #3
The real estate agent is funny: I bet he hasn’t even been there yet. The pictures are quite old… And if some rooms are cluttered, then one or the heirs can hire someone for a small amount of money (€1,000-2,000) to dispose of the trash. To me, it sounds like they want to make quick money, but are afraid that the trash could be hiding something that would decrease the value of the property. So they just leave the trash inside. The plot also doesn’t have the standard land value like a normal building plot and is a renovation case… Bold, these formulations and beware! That’s my opinion!
 

mayglow

2024-01-09 17:43:03
  • #4
Is that an outdoor area? Somehow interesting. I once looked up the land use plan (the link doesn’t work), if the district boundary (which probably also corresponds to the city district boundary?) next to the green area didn’t run there, I would almost have thought that everything around it belongs to a settlement and this here is just a green area more or less in the middle. By the way, it is also listed in the land use plan as a green area, and not as land for agriculture.

I also see it that way, that if I were interested there, I would urgently want to clarify whether use as a residential house is still possible (I fear something similar to what describes. That it was tolerated, but when the owner changes, people look more closely again) and then also - depending on what you want to do with it, whether there are special regulations for the house (as I said, it is registered in the land use plan as a green area. If you want to remodel or even demolish/rebuild or something like that and the authorities then object, that would be annoying). For outdoors as well, of course (you can tell, most people hear about this type of protection for the first time here...). In my naivety, living in something overgrown and green actually sounds pretty cool, but you still want a bit of creative freedom (especially since you are looking for a large property, you certainly had ideas about what you want to do with it) and I can’t quite tell whether you constantly get stuck in administrative madness if you want to do anything or if it’s not that bad.
 

mayglow

2024-01-09 17:44:11
  • #5
I also find the exposé very interesting. It all reads like "I've heard that ... but don't hold me to it if it's not true!"
 

Markus_S

2024-01-09 19:25:35
  • #6


Yes, I didn’t expect that at first either. It’s actually right in the middle of a residential area. There are things out there ^^
I’m now waiting for the response from the building authority. I’m curious to see what they say.

I also saw that it is indicated as green space in the land use plan.
However, in the data from the standard land value, it is classified as agricultural and forestry land.

As you rightly say, we would like a bit of design freedom for our property.
Here, nature conservation under FFH is probably the biggest problem.

The real estate agent said on the phone that he would recommend not making a big deal out of what I intend to do with the authorities at first, and then it would probably work out in practice with my own ideas. But I rather think he just wants to somehow sell it...
 

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