MadameP
2019-03-09 21:37:52
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So first of all, thanks to everyone for your opinions and reports of experience!
Exactly. That’s exactly our dilemma. Stupid that you can never foresee something like that.
Well basically what everyone expects from legal protection insurance. No nasty / hidden costs in case of emergency when you already have a super heavy financing / burden going on... 100,000 per case sounds like a lot, but just as an example: suppose in the worst case there’s a permanent construction stop, you’re paying off the loan and still paying rent, nobody agrees, etc. etc. A high coverage is reassuring.
It is valid at least 3, maximum 5 years. One thousand per year in our case.
That’s exactly what we don’t intend to do. We’re not lawsuit fans at all and don’t want to become any. I believe in the good conversation face to face.
Our expert and our GC have known each other distantly from studying 20 years ago and from a few constructions the expert supervised. They’re not friends (and after meeting both, I guess why), but no enemies either. Our expert says things like “you can build with him” (he definitely advised against others) and “we both agree that we want to finish a reasonable building without defects and not be nitpickers.” That makes me hope that we might possibly handle crises through conversation.
Our gut feeling has said yes from the start about the GC, and a big one at that. The man is an architect out of passion, has good ideas and enthusiasm for our project and was constantly reachable, committed and friendly even after signing. Sends me WhatsApp messages from BAU in Munich with roof tiles he wants to suggest, talks for an hour at 9 p.m. to explain things, still sends emails late that he promised etc. Also, I like his humor , but that is not decisive. He has been building single- and multi-family houses here in the area for 20 years, has a good reputation and something to lose. I believe he’s rather harmed by picky builders who at night walk through the shell with a laser measuring everything, initial each page of the contract and drag him to court if necessary. (We are honestly not like that. 3-5 cm I couldn’t care less about.) That’s what I heard. The construction won’t start before he’s back from vacation, the gravel for the foundation slab is compacted not by our garden landscaper but HIS structural builder even though more expensive etc.
Long story short. My gut somehow told me I can also sleep without the legal protection. I just wanted to make sure I’m not making a big mistake there. You helped me, thank you!
The 3000 euros are a gamble. You can do it. Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win.
Exactly. That’s exactly our dilemma. Stupid that you can never foresee something like that.
What do you expect from the insurance?
Well basically what everyone expects from legal protection insurance. No nasty / hidden costs in case of emergency when you already have a super heavy financing / burden going on... 100,000 per case sounds like a lot, but just as an example: suppose in the worst case there’s a permanent construction stop, you’re paying off the loan and still paying rent, nobody agrees, etc. etc. A high coverage is reassuring.
How long is it valid? Only for the construction phase or also if hidden defects appear after 4 or x years?
It is valid at least 3, maximum 5 years. One thousand per year in our case.
I...and regret having pushed the otherwise good general contractor with a lawyer over just a 500€ damage instead of talking and claiming his right in the usual way. That still applies and also works
That’s exactly what we don’t intend to do. We’re not lawsuit fans at all and don’t want to become any. I believe in the good conversation face to face.
Our expert and our GC have known each other distantly from studying 20 years ago and from a few constructions the expert supervised. They’re not friends (and after meeting both, I guess why), but no enemies either. Our expert says things like “you can build with him” (he definitely advised against others) and “we both agree that we want to finish a reasonable building without defects and not be nitpickers.” That makes me hope that we might possibly handle crises through conversation.
However, if you know the contractor well as often described e.g. at Nordlys, he is from the town, has a good reputation etc., you can certainly do without it. If not: Read the insurance terms very carefully and take out something like that. 3-5k then is not much.
Our gut feeling has said yes from the start about the GC, and a big one at that. The man is an architect out of passion, has good ideas and enthusiasm for our project and was constantly reachable, committed and friendly even after signing. Sends me WhatsApp messages from BAU in Munich with roof tiles he wants to suggest, talks for an hour at 9 p.m. to explain things, still sends emails late that he promised etc. Also, I like his humor , but that is not decisive. He has been building single- and multi-family houses here in the area for 20 years, has a good reputation and something to lose. I believe he’s rather harmed by picky builders who at night walk through the shell with a laser measuring everything, initial each page of the contract and drag him to court if necessary. (We are honestly not like that. 3-5 cm I couldn’t care less about.) That’s what I heard. The construction won’t start before he’s back from vacation, the gravel for the foundation slab is compacted not by our garden landscaper but HIS structural builder even though more expensive etc.
Long story short. My gut somehow told me I can also sleep without the legal protection. I just wanted to make sure I’m not making a big mistake there. You helped me, thank you!