Bathroom Renovation: Offer for over 50,000

We generally do a lot ourselves on the house, we are not craftsmen, but we do not have two left hands and are not afraid. A bit of a problem is time - both working. We want to "tear down" the bathroom ourselves.

"What does 'Eine Ausschreibung starten' mean?"

I am happy to write down everything we have in mind.

Wishes for the bathroom (with bathtub and shower remaining where they are for cost reasons):

Bathtub:
- existing or new bathtub (doesn't matter) pushed against the wall with the head end
- if not too expensive: bathtub shortened to only 170 cm in favor of the shower, but with extra depth (we are all tall)
- bathtub fixtures don’t matter much
- pedestal with recessed bathtub remains, remove the semicircular step, remove the cut above, bathtub flush with the wall on 3 sides

Shower:
- Shower: flush with the bathtub edge: L-shaped wall placed on the pedestal (end of the existing pedestal as a seat in the shower, or completely removed), either glass (like the picture of the black bathroom with moon wallpaper) or masonry or drywall
- entrance to the shower at the window, preferably without a door with a rather narrow opening
- no rain shower
- with step, as high as necessary
- shower fixtures don’t matter much
- drain channel suitable for long hair
- if not too expensive: niche in the wall for shampoo etc.

Toilet:
- Toilet: doesn’t matter, just a normal white one

Washbasin:
- washbasin 160 or preferably 180 cm, mineral cast surface with 2 recessed basins and handleless drawers underneath (we have not chosen one yet)
- faucets probably on the washbasin for cost reasons, not concealed in the wall
- three-hole faucets, preferably Grohe Atrio or similar, with cross or lever handles

Tiles:
- light beige in an easily installable format, porcelain stoneware, preferably with some surface texture and the look of a sandy beach or natural stone, e.g. Porcelanosa Dover Caliza or Porcelanosa Durango Bone 60x60
- preferably only on the floor and in the shower, behind the washbasin and possibly a row above the bathtub, rest plastered

Extravagances we would like to indulge in but that can be left out if necessary:
- above the bathtub, or on both long sides or even all around: bathroom-suitable wallpaper: Wallpepper Riflesso Bretagne Variant B (blue-gray, design can be freely adapted to the wall)
- back wall of the shower (if wallpaper is not continued in the shower and shower walls are glass) as well as strips above the washbasin: gray-blue glass mosaic matching the wallpaper, e.g. Bisazza OP 25.03 - if this does not become visually too much, we are not sure about that
- above the washbasin two rather narrow recessed mirror cabinets (i.e. build the front wall up to the ceiling)

The ceiling may need to be lowered in order to illuminate a masonry shower with a spotlight from above.

Too complicated? If in doubt, just light tiles where necessary, the rest simply plastered and painted in color.

I understood the company to mean that they generally do not "cosmetically treat" bathrooms, but always completely gut and rebuild them because that is their standard. They also do, for example, mitered tile edges, etc. However, we plan to talk to them about it again. We actually signaled from the beginning that we did not want the costs to get out of hand, and our first own proposal was also that the division remains as it is. Apparently, the company does not want to agree to that.

Really? It’s supposed to be a collaboration between the executing company and the customer. It’s about the customer’s requirements. It can’t be for warranty reasons. Our installer understandably insists that everything involving water comes from him. During planning and implementation, he assists with advice, support, and his experience. I can work with that, but if a company wants to impose its “philosophy” on me... I look for another one. Btw: If you dye your hair yourself or rinse it after dyeing, mineral casting is not a good idea ;)

Dye hair? Me?? :eek: No. Is mineral cast generally not recommended? I'm looking for a washbasin with "recessed" basins, a continuous surface completely made from one piece – and I don't like a glass surface there. What else is there, Corian etc...?

Perhaps an undermount washbasin in sanitary ceramic would be suitable? Mineral cast is quite sensitive to scratches. Eventually, you can no longer remove them even with car polish (this was a recommendation from the sanitary supplier).

Dye hair? Me?? :eek: No.

But maybe someday. Or you? Tints in day creams etc. also affect surfaces.