Avoid broker fees?

the realtor can only offer you the property because he already has the contract. anything else is not possible and would not lead to any contract. how else could the realtor have known that the property was for sale?! where else should he have gotten the necessary data (e.g. cadastral map/floor plan etc.) if not from the owner?!

but your example is correct. however, I have not read anywhere that the thread starter has hired a realtor to look for a property. because then, in my eyes, the money is more than justified.

however, the thread starter saw an ad on "immo irgendwas" and had the exposé sent to him. and this exposé only exists because the owner hired the realtor. and thus the owner is involved and as a potential buyer you can, for example, negotiate the sharing of the realtor's commission with the owner.

If it had been like that, the seller often already pays a commission to the broker. In many regions, the broker charges a commission from both the buyer and the seller, often totaling around 6%.

It's no longer relevant. We had the contract, would have also swallowed the broker fees. Then the broker brought in another client who is offering 20,000 euros more for the property. So the search continues.

my condolences...

I am in favor of applying the principle of the party who orders the service paying the fee in land (sale/purchase) transactions as is done in apartment rentals - it’s unfair otherwise, why should I pay a broker if I didn’t commission him?

If the seller thinks he needs to involve a broker, he should pay for him...

If the seller thinks he has to involve a real estate agent, he should also pay him...

I agree. If a prospective buyer personally commissions a real estate agent to search, then of course he should also pay if the agent offers him something that he found specifically for him. However, if a seller has already commissioned the agent to find a buyer, then the payment is already settled. So if you only respond to an agent's advertisement as a prospective buyer, the seller would have to pay. Perhaps there would then be less dispute over supposedly payable agent fees, because the one who pays would have signed a contract. If a seller involves an agent, he can include the costs in his offer, just as is common in other areas. If I sell something on eBay, by newspaper ad, or at a flea market, I also have to make sure I recoup my costs.

The eBay and rental apartment comparison could give us courage - there it is now also forbidden to pass the fees (directly) on to the buyer...