Architect costs realistic yes/no

  • Erstellt am 2009-05-27 11:53:16

NUISETTE

2009-05-28 12:39:05
  • #1
Hello Danton,

of course, this should then be understood as an official order, which will be compensated according to the official regulations.
The goal should be to check the construction costs based on the trade services and to give a "go" as a third party.
Also, to give me an explanation from another source about what "schlüsselfertig" according to DIN 276(?) actually means. I thought we could save money based on the equipment features. When listing the equipment, I - in my opinion - only set the minimum requirements. And I hoped, as mentioned, to save money that way. (e.g. tiling the hobby room with leftover tiles, "medium-coarse plaster" instead of fine plaster, textured wallpaper and click laminate. But from how it sounded, these features do not necessarily have to lead to lowering the price by a few hundred. This is not entirely clear to me, as I have always held the opinion that with "schlüsselfertig" I have the choice between exclusive (golden faucets, marble staircase, Tekko wallpapers, etc.), medium level, and "lower limit." Somehow the DIN must add up, even if it was explained as the average standard from 100,000 examples. (Normal textured wallpaper and click laminate belong for me almost to the lower limit). By the way, our A. knew the planned construction sum. We actually thought, since we received no indication to the contrary, that it would remain that way. Until we had the rough breakdown. But by then, we were already too far advanced (and mentally already living in our house) to throw everything overboard again. And the money must now at least be roughly recovered.

Suggestion: As soon as I have the corresponding breakdown and thus the contract, I will get in touch with you. However, it may still take about a week. (Real appointments with A. are hard to get out of him)

Greetings from southern Germany
nuisette
 

NUISETTE

2009-05-28 12:43:52
  • #2


sorry, I will then get in touch with YOU.
 

Danton

2009-05-28 14:19:26
  • #3
Hello Nuisette,

first of all: turnkey and DIN 276 are two different things.

The term "turnkey" is not precisely defined anywhere and is therefore not very meaningful. It can mean many things or nothing at all.

DIN 276 (costs in building construction) regulates the determination and breakdown of costs in building construction, defines terms and distinguishing features of costs, etc.

One more question:
Did you commission the architect directly and are they having your house built turnkey, or did you commission a turnkey company to build your house, where the architect is employed?
How am I supposed to understand that?

In a turnkey construction, it is extremely important what exactly is included in the performance descriptions and contracts!!!
These should be reviewed by an experienced specialist lawyer for construction law, if necessary in cooperation with me, because there are many dangers lurking for a builder here!!!

Furthermore, I await the developments to come.
 

NUISETTE

2009-05-28 14:28:58
  • #4
Hello Danton,

we are building directly with the architect. Turnkey in the sense of ready to move in. According to the architect, we have clear say in the selection of the craftsmen. He puts the trades out to tender, we ultimately choose the craftsmen as well.
By the way, despite the hillside construction, there are rooms downstairs that were included in the living area (partly hallway & pantry) but they are not "real" living rooms. (light wells). What could possibly be expensive is the double garage inside the house (terrace above), airlock, then you stand in the basement.

More on that when we have everything together.
 

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