Adjacent neighboring garage (existing building) with a height of 3.6m

  • Erstellt am 2024-04-09 14:35:10

W.Heisenberg

2024-04-11 23:40:25
  • #1
The draftsman/architect cannot determine the exact height of the garage if he does not know the original reference points!? So he suspects that the 3m could have been exceeded. One hardly needs to put a suspicion into the building application!? Theoretically, the garage could have been built 70 years ago, with a completely different terrain that was subsequently removed / built up.

Now let us assume that the garages actually have a wall height of 3.5m. That would trigger a clearance area. However, our property has never been burdened in this regard. Consequently, the development plan and the state building regulations apply to us. Both specify a 3m setback for our new building.

So if the building authority rejects our building application because the neighboring garage is too high and requires a greater setback than 3m, the building authority would have to take action at the same time and demand a structural change/ demolition of the neighboring garage or a subsequent building encumbrance (to which I would never agree), right?
 

K a t j a

2024-04-12 06:17:09
  • #2

As far as I know, buildings normally have protection if they complied with the old plan before a new development plan was created. But I don't know how it is if undeveloped plots are disadvantaged as a result. That plots are arbitrarily devalued or upgraded by the authorities is not uncommon. We have also had to reclaim the buildability of one of our plots in court.

The state building code specifically requires setback areas. This is a circular problem.

If the unlikely case actually occurs that the building authority takes the neighbor’s garage height into account when assessing the building application, the application would be rejected first and nothing else would happen. At most, the neighbor would receive a penalty for his violation. As long as your house is not built, no rules are broken. They are very unlikely to fight for your rights. After all, it is not their property.
 

schubert79

2024-04-12 06:57:02
  • #3
If the building authority really comes around with an order for dismantling or demolition, then you won't be building before 3 years at the earliest. Or do you think your neighbor won’t oppose such an order? BTW… it takes a very long time before such a legally binding order is issued. Before that, site inspections are scheduled and many written communications are exchanged. The relationship with the neighbor is already destroyed from the beginning… not to mention the trouble and costs.

So try to keep a low profile.
 

hanghaus2023

2024-04-12 10:46:53
  • #4
Then just plan the house 90 cm narrower. Set the boundary distance to 3.9m instead of 3m. With an 18 m width, that should be possible. Show us the plot and the development plan.
 

11ant

2024-04-12 11:52:25
  • #5


The plan submitter doesn’t withhold anything but states the front and rear garage corner with its absolute height above sea level; he doesn’t need to research the original terrain. He truthfully does not mark a non-existent setback obligation either.

Just because you cite the popular shortening: the “three meters” are actually “0.4 h, but at least 3.0 m”.

Yes exactly, take a photo.
 

K a t j a

2024-04-12 12:50:07
  • #6
You mean that although the state building code is violated when granting the building permit, it is still granted? I wouldn't be so sure about that. You?
 

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