Adjacent neighboring garage (existing building) with a height of 3.6m

  • Erstellt am 2024-04-09 14:35:10

mayglow

2024-04-11 10:47:07
  • #1
Well, because it is simply too tall?
 

W.Heisenberg

2024-04-11 10:48:46
  • #2
Yes, it is too high.

But it was built without approval or similar. There is also no registered building encumbrance.

Does it then still trigger a clearance area?
 

11ant

2024-04-11 11:20:19
  • #3
Preliminary building inquiries and especially applications for formal building permits reliably avoid the uncertainties and risks of exemption procedures. Even a boundary-privileged building triggers distance areas depending on its average wall height. And if it "wants" to do so, the acceptance of these distance areas is required, provided it cannot fulfill them on this side. I would be cautious about claims of legal violations; so far I have not been convinced that the garage is actually too high in relation to the relevant original plot. I consider it conceivable both that the garage unintentionally exceeds the scope of procedural freedom and that the OP simply mistakenly accuses it of excessive height. If it is a fact that it has too much wall height, this triggers a distance area (for example 3.5 x 0.4 = 1.4 meters), which would probably have to be "rounded up" to the minimum border distance of 3.0 (in BW: 2.5) meters. If no acceptance is present for this, it can probably be remedied by catching up on it—but not ex officio against the will of the OP. So again: #1: apparent excess height and legal excess height are not the same; #2: neighbors can make a "shared fund" (= acceptance of distance areas), but only by mutual agreement; #3: violations do not implicate neighbors by association. I will not say this a fourth time—over & out!
 

W.Heisenberg

2024-04-11 11:57:15
  • #4


State Building Code: "The established ground surface is the ground surface specified in a development plan or determined in the building permit or partial building permit; otherwise, the height of the natural ground surface is considered established."

According to the development plan, the nearest street centerline applies.

This is even a few centimeters lower than the natural ground surface and has probably been so for the last 50 years.
How exactly should there be no exceeding of the 3m height?

Personally, I will not accept a setback area on my property as it is already relatively narrow at 18m.

“Violations do not hold neighbors liable by association” -> You mean that I should not suffer any disadvantages due to a "possibly" too tall built garage?
 

11ant

2024-04-11 12:10:17
  • #5

The wall height of the boundary garage regularly refers to the original upper ground edge at the boundary; the reference height for the eaves and ridge height is a different matter.

 

K a t j a

2024-04-11 17:43:31
  • #6

Basically yes. But important information is deliberately withheld in the building application here, which an expert should recognize as such and indeed has recognized.


Everyone is punished for their own offense. The question here, in my opinion, would rather be about the significance of "not reporting" for one's own benefit.


"Only" is good. Anyone who needs a loan knows the difficulties with commitment fees or rent + installment payments. Possibly also legal costs. That can already be annoying.

The reprimand would probably be directed more at the expert, who would then pass it on to you. But I am too much a layman and am not familiar with this. I could imagine that an expert might be obliged not to conceal facts in a building application. But as I said, it’s better to ask the lawyers about that.
 

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