36 cm Ytong exterior wall, solid construction, mold formation, insulation

  • Erstellt am 2012-09-13 08:29:06

€uro

2012-09-15 13:13:38
  • #1
What are you expecting? The "ultimate" solution for free?
Every statement, including those from experts, is influenced by individual (economic) backgrounds. As a result, corresponding statements naturally differ.
"Universal" is simply my point of view. Competing claims, in my opinion, can only be optimally satisfied through "separation of powers".

regards
 

E.Curb

2012-09-15 13:27:53
  • #2
Hi,

I see it similarly to €uro. For the different functions of a construction, the ideal building materials should be selected. For load-bearing (structural), sound insulation, thermal insulation, and summer thermal insulation. All these different requirements cannot be fulfilled with a single building material. Certainly, the question always arises: What is important to me, what can I do without, and what compromises am I willing to make?

I consider a sustainable approach to be sensible. Good thermal insulation, good physical properties, and low maintenance (referring to the entire construction).

Regards
 

o.s.

2012-09-15 13:50:27
  • #3
Aerated concrete proves the opposite.

From my point of view, thermal insulation bricks are not a "single" building material, but load-bearing building elements with internal insulation. Ideal is relative. If you mean profitable = efficient by that, okay. Ideal in the sense of best possible, on the other hand, pure waste of money.

1. Load transfer (structural engineering): is calculated. Regardless of the wall structure.
2. Sound insulation: Isn’t it mainly determined by the weakest links (windows)?
3. Thermal insulation: This is provided by the Energy Saving Ordinance. Further improvements are commendable but probably unprofitable in 90% of cases.
4. Summer thermal protection: Okay, a bit of mass for the temperature phase shift should be there... or automatic shading systems (exterior blinds).
5. Don’t forget: Exterior insulation (ETICS) = faster dirt accumulation on weather-exposed sides! (Maintenance costs or impaired appearance)

Regards
Olaf
 

€uro

2012-09-15 14:16:41
  • #4
Confirms my fundamental view! Correct, but this presupposes that the decision-maker has appropriate templates (variants) available. The interaction between building structure, climatic location, building orientation, user behavior, and the resulting sensible system technology is still often a foreign concept today. After all, some, in my opinion unfortunately too few, universities of applied sciences have now recognized this shortcoming and accordingly offer a holistic and overarching education of this necessity. Unfortunately somewhat late, but at least something! Best regards
 

E.Curb

2012-09-15 15:47:29
  • #5

By no means!


Of course it is calculated. But don’t I have to consider function and economy? Best building material for load transfer: sand-lime brick


Not only if I don’t install old barn windows. Best building material for sound insulation: sand-lime brick


I cannot insulate only with the Energy Saving Ordinance. It specifies the minimum thermal protection, but it couldn’t care less which building material I use to achieve it.
Best building material for thermal insulation: not sand-lime brick


Here not only the heat input through the windows plays a role, but also through the wall. And, of course, the storage capacity of the building material.
Best building material for summer thermal protection: sand-lime brick



I also think EIFS from the outside is dumb
 

o.s.

2012-09-15 16:21:00
  • #6
You people from Schleswig-Holstein have it easy. Not everywhere in the country has the tradition of double-shell construction. Here in the East, according to my previous research, the following wall construction is common for GÜs:

1. Aerated concrete 17.5 + ETICS
2. KS + ETICS
3. Liapor precast concrete parts + ETICS
4. Brick, T10 unfilled

The surcharges for double-shell construction are enormous. A GÜ salesperson confided in me recently that due to the high level of construction activity and the lack of skilled shell builders, the price has risen by 50%...
 

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