135 sqm single-family house with gable roof floor plan evaluation / improvement suggestions

  • Erstellt am 2025-07-21 13:16:55

11ant

2025-07-23 14:27:13
  • #1
Traffic area anxiety regularly leads to bottlenecks, boxy furnishings, and too many multifunctional rooms that do not do justice to the living feelings of the here ... ... still unknown family constellation. After all, having no roommate is better from the perspective of the future roommate than moving into the nest of her predecessor, and this doesn’t look like a mancave here. But a single household somewhat explains ignoring the cleaning supply cabinet.
 

Papierturm

2025-07-23 18:23:05
  • #2
Well, I had to chuckle a bit. After studying and living for years in very tight spaces, I probably would have had similar blind spots. That’s why I’m writing something too – a house is such a big investment, you should avoid preventable problems, well, avoid them. I would recommend the thread starter the following approach: 1. Really sit down with regard to floor plan planning and find out what is actually needed in the house ("must haves"). Here, also think comprehensively about things like storage space (for a possibly planned family), lighting, and so on. At first only "must haves", do not add too many "nice to haves" (otherwise you quickly blow any budget). 2. Look at what the plot dictates! A house should always be considered together with the plot of land. Some things are dictated by the development plan, some by the plot itself (e.g. slope). Then combine both considerations and see how to create the best possible fusion from both aspects (what do I need and what does the plot dictate). And then you can see which nice to haves still fit in or are within the budget. (Best of course with professional support.)
 

Sebastian012

2025-07-23 19:07:36
  • #3


You’re really right there. I would agree with you on most points. Thanks for the comments, I will take a look at how I apply them.
 

Sebastian012

2025-07-23 19:17:14
  • #4
I have read all your contributions. You are probably right. The missing windows on the east side are part of an agreement with the neighbor so that neither of us can have possible views into the other’s property. You are also right about the storage space. For example, I have planned a built-in wardrobe under the stairs, or floor-to-ceiling built-in cupboards behind doors upstairs. But apparently, that is not enough. Regarding the utility room, I was of the opinion that the technology could be accommodated relatively compactly. (I am a craftsman myself and will do the installation myself). Maybe the wall of the utility room can be raised somewhat to create enough space. I don’t understand the fundamental criticism of self-drawn floor plans. After all, at least from my imagined point of view, I haven’t found a floor plan that fits better or uses the space more efficiently. The rooms on the left upstairs also have windows facing outside; it’s only missing in the room on the right, and I don’t want any view in the bathroom. What do you think, from what knee wall height do the dormer windows become too high? Actually, if it makes sense, I would do without 2 full floors, since I don’t find that very attractive myself and it could look like an alien in the area. (rural, all houses have gabled roofs or bungalows with very low roofs)
 

Papierturm

2025-07-23 20:22:07
  • #5
I also like to criticize floor plans from ready-made kits. However, often for different reasons. I ask myself three questions for every floor plan: 1. Do the rooms work? 2. Do the paths work? 3. Would something probably annoy me in everyday life? You can find a lot to criticize even in some ready-made floor plans. Often because they are more geared towards brochures than towards real life. (My favorite example is the inflated use of floor-to-ceiling windows. When I walk through a settlement here, I see that on the upper floors in almost all houses the floor-to-ceiling elements are hidden with pleated blinds or furniture. Because they simply are not practical for everyday use.) Or also: currently 2 of the 4 rooms have no possibility to look outside at sight height. Regarding the bathroom, yes, that’s debatable. I believe (but of course don’t know) that one will regret that later and it will be considered depreciating by external parties. Regarding the other room (the bedroom, children’s room?), however, I consider it a very questionable decision. A lot depends on windows and thus daylight, on how a room feels. At the same time, you have the huge problem of heat protection in summer depending on that as well. These are things that should be taken into account. The house, as it is currently planned, will look almost like two full stories from the outside anyway. The reason is simply the exterior wall height with the currently planned ceiling heights. In our building area, there is a development plan that only allows full stories (i.e. either bungalow or two full stories, knee walls not allowed). The older houses all have a masonry height (eaves side) of 5.5–5.8 meters with 2 full stories. How would that be with the planned house? 3 + 1.6 + 0.4 (estimated; intermediate ceiling) = already 5 meters height. (For comparison with many houses here in the area: 2.45 + 2.45 + 0.5 = 5.4; and then often a step in front of the house for water protection.) Regarding the question of skylight windows: The problem is that as they are now, you can’t look straight out of them. They are already too high for that. The line of sight depends on the eye level of the residents. Eye level + 5cm should be aimed at least to the top edge of the window glass area. With wall windows, you can manage that reasonably well including rollers (shading...) at a clear knee wall in the 220 to 230 cm range. However, with very tall residents that also does not work. If you shade with venetian blinds, the knee wall can even be somewhat lower. Or alternatively, with a clear knee wall in the 220 cm range, also possible for rather tall people. The alternative would be to make the knee wall lower so that the roof windows come to eye level. This would also mean the roof should become steeper (otherwise too much space is lost). Then you can look out again. However, they have to reach significantly further down so that smaller residents and especially female residents can look out. Then you quickly end up with the classic knee wall in the 50–70 cm range for this to work at all. Regardless of the planned construction method, I really can only recommend going to a show home park. There you can see various houses with different knee walls and window designs and see how windows have been realized well or not so well with different knee walls. And whether you like it.
 

Papierturm

2025-07-23 20:37:00
  • #6
Addition on the topic of windows: If it were within the financial scope, one could also consider dormers. (So significantly lower knee wall, into which a dormer with a wall window = view to the outside and area gain in the dormer.) Unfortunately, they are also rather expensive again and probably not budget-friendly. However, it would also require a change of the rooms again, as in my impression they are currently not so well suited for this either.
 

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