Ytong and clinker slips, possibilities

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-18 15:38:25

Nordlys

2021-04-19 16:53:33
  • #1
Veneers are actually just a makeshift solution. They pretend there are bricks where there are none. They do not save labor costs compared to real bricks. Therefore, why not use 24 cm Ytong, insulation, and bricks? It is definitely the better system.
 

11ant

2021-04-19 18:11:51
  • #2

I wouldn’t phrase it so harshly,

especially since they actually are real clinker, just cut into thin slices. Slabs are a product designed for the application case where clinker is desired but for various reasons was not planned or should contribute less to the total thickness. So for retrofitting or also in new construction as an aesthetic layer. Slabs on plaster are nonsense, as they are supposed to be an alternative surface instead of plaster and are used exactly where the issue of wall thickness has already been fully satisfied monolithically. Slabs as a facing shell do not work because you can’t masonry them, but only more or less "tile" them. Theoretically, you could mount them on ETICS as a curtain wall, yes, but: for that you would at least have to find the fool who guarantees the durability of this construction – and of course the suitable adhesive. However, ETICS is not intended as a curtain, but as the “E” already says, for mounting directly on the structural masonry shell. For that matter, in a new construction project I would choose the material of the structural masonry shell so that you can dimension it slimmer thanks to ETICS. Monolithic plus ETICS is, in my opinion, subject to a tax on stupidity!
Therefore: if ETICS in new construction, then in my opinion more sensible with clinker as a facing shell, and the structural masonry shell dimensioned accordingly. The S in ETICS stands for “system” in the sense of considering the wall assembly as a whole. But since the combination possibilities are varied here, and those with which the installer has experience are clearly much less varied, one ends up again with the question of what the installer’s "answer" to the stone mantra is.
 

Nordlys

2021-04-19 19:21:22
  • #3
I do not mean a composite system, but rather Ytong, glass wool, air layer, clinker. That is the usual structure here.
 

11ant

2021-04-19 19:44:10
  • #4
That only works with full-format clinker, not with thin bricks.
 

Nordlys

2021-04-19 20:34:01
  • #5
Exactly. Why use brick slips in new construction? It doesn't save anything.
 

blackarrow1990

2021-04-19 21:02:55
  • #6
For us, both clinker slips and clinker bricks look good. Of course, real clinker is better, but you want to build more economically. For this reason, the question is, is there a big difference in price and durability between the two options:

1. Ytong 17.5 cm + insulation 6 cm + finger gap 1 cm + clinker 11.5 cm (36 cm)
2. Ytong 36.5 cm + exterior plaster 1.5 cm + clinker slips 1.5 cm (39.5 cm)
 

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