Renovation of mid-terrace house - Built in 1980 - Original condition

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-10 13:28:38

bra-tak

2021-04-13 22:11:24
  • #1
Steep price, but unfortunately probably normal there.

Congratulations! Open a bottle of champagne!

(I did the same with my wife today, our financing approvals for our house are here :cool:)
 

apokolok

2021-04-13 22:13:11
  • #2
- Heating can be new, but doesn't have to be. Assume a low-temperature boiler based on the year of construction, which doesn’t need to be replaced. Those things run indefinitely, a chimney sweep friend calls it the Mercedes of heaters. Normally, you don’t have to replace heating pipes. Since it’s a closed circuit with stagnant water, nothing happens there. Radiators are a matter of taste; the old ribbed radiators work at least as well as new ones. If you switch to gas and replace all radiators, 8-12k.

- Bathroom / guest WC I would always do as well, it’s a feel-good thing. If you have everything done here, start from 10k upwards, no upper limit.

- Windows / interior doors / front door: can be done, but doesn’t have to be. Are the windows and doors defective? Or just a matter of taste? These are all jobs that can be done fairly quickly and with manageable dirt, so can be done at any time.

- Floors / walls: definitely do, at least because of the electrical work. Floors you can do yourself well, estimate 3-5k material costs. Walls can also be done yourself, no idea 2-3k?

- Electrical: what does the current installation look like? 3-core with FI and enough outlets? Then expand and lay LAN as well. This is also a job you can do yourself well. Material costs are manageable. If there is still classic neutral wiring and no FIs, everything new costs about 10-15k professionally, including LAN.

- Opening to the kitchen: depends on the statics, whether something has to be added to the ceiling. If not, you can do it yourself, costs nothing except sweat and tools, of course.

- Insulation of the basement ceiling: simple and quick to do, with good material a few thousand.

In my opinion, you can get by with significantly less if you renovate sensibly.

P.S. Water pipes could be replaced if you open the walls anyway. If they are already copper, maybe not necessary, but with iron pipes it would be a good idea, RNK is mostly chalky.
 

Imke2020

2021-04-13 22:37:12
  • #3
then congratulations to you!

yes the price is normal, rather even cheap, since it is a private sale

thanks for the input

we are planning a new heating system. That would also be the most important craftsman for us at first.

Both bathrooms should also be redone.

The electrical system is with fI and 3-wire. There are simply too few sockets.

Next week we are allowed to go in again and then we will calmly go from room to room and take a close look.
Windows and doors will definitely be redone and should also be done before moving in.

We will do most of the floors and walls ourselves. Definitely in the bedrooms/workrooms.
Only tiles in the entrance/kitchen and bathroom will be done by professionals. Whether we then lay the floor in the living room too, we will see.

I think and hope that we will manage well with 150K. The next few weeks will show that. We will also take an energy consultant alongside us and see what he has to say.
 

apokolok

2021-04-13 23:03:45
  • #4
With 150k you can still seriously insulate the exterior shell and go for a heat pump with underfloor heating. As I said, I wouldn’t invest that much, it’s simply inefficient. Financially, you definitely don’t have to worry with that buffer, there is a lot possible in terms of renovation.
 

Winniefred

2021-04-14 13:31:14
  • #5

I agree with everything except the walls. Interior plaster is not something unskilled people can do. A ton of work, a lot of dirt, and definitely more of an advanced level DIYer task. For an entire house, a huge job. Better to have it done by professionals, but that also doesn’t come cheap.
 

nordanney

2021-04-14 13:39:40
  • #6

Then bring an energy consultant on board. For example, a heat pump can also be operated with radiators if designed properly. It does not necessarily have to be underfloor heating.

Then you can also consider funding. There is a lot possible, so that possibly more renovation costs less in the end. I am currently renovating to KfW 55 – it is cheaper than KfW 70 when taking the funding into account.
 

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