Renew windows / Is the offer fixed or negotiable?

  • Erstellt am 2025-09-25 23:06:02

MachsSelbst

2025-09-26 19:02:22
  • #1
Then you have already given yourself the answer. I am always surprised when people ask questions and then get snappy in the end, accusing someone who knows better from experience of having no clue... My friend, I have been working professionally with assembly companies from Eastern Europe for more than 12 years. It ranges from "I don't have to complain anymore" to "we're getting a German company because nothing fits here at all..." Buy the windows in Poland. As a rule, it will go well. If it doesn't go well... you have a problem. That's all I said, nothing more and nothing less. Whether that is worth 1,500 EUR less to you in the end, you have to decide for yourself.
 

rennschnecke

2025-09-26 19:09:12
  • #2
Sorry, but I will not get snappy just because I am correcting you. I don't know what your experience with "assembly companies from Poland" and "I should buy in Poland" has to do with windows from a German, established window manufacturer, but okay. You are kind of getting carried away. Especially since German companies now also operate locations in Poland. But this should not turn into Germany vs. Poland here. And I just wanted to clarify that the manufacturer is not the contact person for warranty claims.
 

nordanney

2025-09-26 19:32:22
  • #3

I can at least tell you that Poles belong to the most sought-after craftsmen because the quality of their work is excellent (good training). If you are building new, it is quite possible that the German construction company also sources the windows including installers from Poland. Nothing special. Although, of course, you have a German contracting partner there.
 

nordanney

2025-09-26 20:59:50
  • #4

That’s how it is.

You didn’t have to ventilate in that house either. The mold problems after window replacement occupy many owners every day and even more tenants and landlords (and thus experts and courts). Believe me. Keep an eye on these issues.
And as I said, a ventilation concept is not a wish list, but an obligation. You want a proper installation. Then you also want a prescribed concept.

LOL. That is not low. That’s about 2,000€ heating costs somewhere. Physics - as stated. You can’t heat cheaply with that.
If I convert my house (which is a bit smaller) to 190 sqm, then I heat for 500-550€ including hot water (22 degrees room temperature). That’s what I mean by subjective.
 

rennschnecke

2025-09-26 21:38:56
  • #5


We will. This is not our only/first house. Ventilating is not a foreign word to us.



So if you heat a 25-year-old house with 190 sqm for €550/year including hot water with gas, that is astonishing and probably unique. The average gas consumption for a 190 sqm house including hot water from 2000 is above our consumption.

But that also misses the main point.
 

11ant

2025-09-27 18:25:03
  • #6

So the windows and the house are the same age, presumably installed with the house and factory-made in the prefab house factory. If they are still poorly installed, this speaks for a cheap manufacturer (of the house). Wood moves, also in prefabricated wall panels. Find out what the cause is. And make use of the options to adjust the windows and, if necessary, replace their seals. Windows (what material are they actually made of in your case?) do not necessarily have to be "automatically" removed after 25 years. By the way, windows that have already been installed can also be laminated if they no longer look neat. Whether muntins are a thermal bridge depends on their installation position, not on the brand (or the nationality of the manufacturer).

Forget about an online dealer with "German installers," as those are often just some random handymen from the craftsmen's market. I would prefer a Polish window manufacturer over a German general service craftsman. As a former window manufacturer (aluminum), I can sadly attest that even with the best products, you can produce first-class complaint cases – it "suffices" if they are bungled into the wall openings by disinterested bunglers. The number of unscrupulous characters operating in this field is beyond belief. So you have a high chance of literally "throwing money out the window" on botched improvements. From my point of view, the question "where should I just buy some random new windows" is the worst possible approach.

Sorry to all the “older” questioners that I answer a younger question first here with "last in, first out," currently I have to manage my time very strictly.
 

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