Real estate loan with high collateral but low ongoing income

  • Erstellt am 2019-04-13 01:15:55

HilfeHilfe

2019-04-16 06:40:13
  • #1
Nonsense everything, you are a mudslinger
 

nordanney

2019-04-16 08:21:40
  • #2
At least partially.

The same as with unrealized losses. Do you have money in your wallet from unrealized price gains? No, so you also have no income. Quite simple.

No.

Depends on your income. From €700 for a single person – more income also means a higher lifestyle and thus higher flat rates. So it can also be €2,000 per month.

No.

No difference, since it’s the same risk position from the property for the bank.

All properties where between 15 and 35% equity is contributed. These framework data exist with nearly all commercial real estate financiers. The limit is usually also at 80% market value and thus 20% equity on the purchase price as well as incidental costs from equity. Why should the bank also bear all the risk in an SPV? The customer just has to accept one death – and here it is the equity death. By the way, operating costs in the calculation for reasonable properties are between 9-15%.

Almost 90-95% of all commercial real estate financing runs through an SPV – no matter if with us, a HSH Nordbank, Deutsche Hypo, Bayern LB, Helaba or whatever they’re called.

So you want to set up a small private fund? We start commercially at around €10 million, however, we would not want to support such a construct with an inexperienced initiator and then still privately with several private investors. That is too unprofessional and too complex for us.

P.S. There are enough properties that are bought for 30-40 times the annual rent. That still leaves much more ongoing yield than low-risk alternative investments. In residential, even higher prices are not a problem. But the clients then tend to be institutional.
 

Tassimat

2019-04-16 08:24:24
  • #3
Oh, what is there to say in response... I’ll just repeat myself here: Ask your main bank.

Only real income counts in general. Wages, pension, rental income. The rest could disappear tomorrow.
 

Tassimat

2019-04-16 08:31:25
  • #4


Don’t these new crowd-investing platforms for real estate operate with 6% interest using exactly the same model, whereby the money from private investors is contributed subordinately and counted as equity for the bank?
 

nordanney

2019-04-16 08:35:02
  • #5
Yep - for example Exporo from Hamburg. It's called mezzanine capital and has become socially acceptable for private investors for a few years now. High interest, high risk – since it is absolutely subordinated and treated like equity. In case of problems, the money is simply gone like real equity... Usually only worthwhile for project developments and not for long-term financing.
 

aero2016

2019-04-16 10:57:49
  • #6
You can download EU directives from Eur-Lex, the German implementation in the Bundesanzeiger or at Juris. Have fun reading.
 

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