Photovoltaics initially without storage

  • Erstellt am 2017-03-02 09:49:21

toxicmolotof

2017-03-08 08:32:21
  • #1
Read up on the topic East/West... that is very interesting there.
 

Cruiseaddict

2017-03-13 13:37:05
  • #2
Actually, a photovoltaic system hardly makes sense financially anymore. Only if you actually do not feed in, stay under 10 kWp and have a decent degree of self-sufficiency does it still make sense as a private individual, and for that you then definitely need a storage system.
 

toxicmolotof

2017-03-13 15:16:04
  • #3
Why should it not make sense? The feed-in tariff just covers the investment costs.

However, the battery drives the levelized cost of electricity exorbitantly high.
 

Knallkörper

2017-03-13 16:44:49
  • #4


Actually, you already answer the question in the following sentence. Monetarily, it probably doesn’t make sense at the moment. The system may pay for itself through the feed-in tariff, but only if repair costs are not taken into account. On the credit side, there are also profits from self-consumption. However, this is offset by several disadvantages that are not so easy to quantify objectively and that everyone values differently: appearance of the system – disposal problem – resource waste during production – social and ecological situation in the manufacturing country

For self-consumption, the following assumptions:

- typical builder is a couple in their mid-30s with 2 children
- parents fully employed in regular shifts
- no electric car
- no air conditioning

For us, it looks like this:

- cooking only sometimes in the evenings on weekdays
- washing and drying is done when the children are asleep
- when washing and drying is done, it’s done a lot at once
- on weekends we are not often at home during the day – either shopping or going on trips, so energy consumption is again concentrated in the evening
- sauna is only turned on in the evening
- lights are only turned on in the dark

We have 4 refrigerators/freezers (I am a hunter), these would probably be the only significant base load in our example. Otherwise, I tried to estimate what we manage in self-consumption. I actually wanted to justify a battery system. But it didn’t work out, and I think most households are structured similarly.
 

toxicmolotof

2017-03-13 17:52:21
  • #5
I also didn’t suggest that a battery makes sense. In my eyes, it doesn’t make sense.

What’s stopping them from loading the washing machine and dryer in the evening or morning and starting them one after the other with the animal at 11 and at 1 pm?

I see it differently. There are four of us too, and my wife takes care of the household in the morning, the kids are home from midday, and in summer the photovoltaic system generates until 9 pm... So it’s possible if you want to. But if you really manage with 2000 kWh per year, I’m totally with you.
 

berny

2017-03-13 20:19:44
  • #6
@ Knallkörper: Well, there are also "atypical" builders: - Couple in their mid-50s with children, but out of the house - both no longer working - Electric hybrid car available - Heat pump with cooling function available This way, quite a lot of the photovoltaic yield is used directly... and there's a small battery as a toy on top Toys never really pay off... and there are more pointless toys than such a battery!
 

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