Oval design bathtub – can it be moved slightly due to dirt behind it?

Hello everyone,

I also examined the T. But 60 cm passage is way too little for me.

Here is the view.

The nice spacious bathroom suddenly feels cramped.

I have adjusted it again to what I think is the too narrow shower (85 cm). Then the passage is also 85 cm.

Thank you for your many new sketches. 60 cm passage also seems little to me..
I used my absence from the forum to frequent bathroom showrooms. There I was able to focus on the necessary minimum dimensions of the respective walls myself:
Shower wall (to be able to move arms freely upwards) = 90 cm
Passage in the shower = 53 cm

Thus, one would have gained a few centimeters. Furthermore, I spotted a bathtub that has a rounding at the narrow spot towards the sink:



This would certainly also help to avoid feeling so cramped.

How about this? Then you would have plenty of space in the middle, space for a towel warmer on the shower wall. Or you make it out of glass.

Basically, that would also be possible if you swap the arrangement a bit. Swapping bathtub and toilet would be one option.
We currently have a towel warmer; it is never in use and just collects dust.

We are currently tearing out a corner bathtub.
Although I wouldn’t install a 1.70 m double-leaf door into the bathroom. Especially not if it’s not as big as a ballroom. In the end, you satin or curtain everything anyway and just waste valuable wall space.

If it is not visible from outside and lets light into the bathroom, it definitely makes sense for us. Furthermore, one can go directly from outside, dirty, into the bathroom without passing other rooms, or in future there might be a sauna, whirlpool, etc. outside.

I don’t want to miss my double floor-level window in the bathroom anymore, if only for the quick air exchange.
Is there not also the possibility for the thread starter/renovator to solve it like in the attachment?
1. Shower head
2. Sink (simple) = compromise!
3. The wall moves 40 cm closer towards the door.
The toilet stays there, the wall left of it could be omitted.

What is made of glass?

I think if I understand correctly, the compromise would be okay for us. I have definitely not missed a double sink so far. We are also rather very small people..
Isn’t all of that even more feasible with the new mentioned dimensions from my visit to bathroom showrooms? Let’s assume to reduce the passage to the shower to 60 cm.

Just a suggestion.

In my apartment the toilet is 55 cm out from the wall and the simple washbasin 60 cm.
If the shower wall shifts towards the door, there should still be enough space for the feet.

That’s about how it is at friends of ours too.

.. honestly ... a bathroom of over 11 sqm shouldn’t have to settle for such strange compromises, which I already find borderline for a small guest WC.

What would be the compromise you wrote about?

Which compromises do you mean? The single washbasin?

I have a similar setup myself, I can barely reach the faucet, but in my daily routine the proximity helps me. For example, I can sit on the toilet exhausted/sleepy while brushing my teeth and still put the toothpaste in the sink.
I just measured 1.80 meters for this, the toilet is arranged at a 45-degree angle..

Probably other things could also be used well in a DUAL way! For example, you wouldn’t always have to drag an office chair into the bathroom just to paint your fingernails...

This would be the variant from :



I must add that we like it very much if, as in the variant or the T-variant, the west wall side is not frequented so much, because immediately behind it our bed is planned and thus our heads lie against the wall there. We are very noise sensitive - the closet and bathtub will probably be used less often or more quietly, compared to shower, toilet, sink...

Do you know what I would be interested in after #49? How the bathroom looks now and why you want to renovate. Do you want to improve something? Or do you no longer like the outdated design? Would you like to post a photo? To be honest, I think nothing of your sketch. You cram a wall full of sanitary objects, which has little to do with comfort in the room and even less with functionality. The toilet hardly has any space and is placed diagonally so that you more or less face the washbasin. Two people in the bathroom at the same time have to “deal with” each other. 60 cm for the shower entrance might work, but then you also must not gain any body mass in the following years. Additionally, the overall length is of course important. I always find it very reckless to plan objects in a room without water supply, wall projections, and shelves. Is that a wardrobe at the bottom left?

I find it not only terribly cramped in terms of appearance, but also impractical. The sink is as far away from the door as possible.

Do you know what I would be interested in after #49? How the bathroom looks now and why you want to renovate. Do you want to improve something? Or do you no longer like the outdated design?
Would you like to post a photo?

This is a house renovation and basically everything has been gutted. The room used to be a children's room; the former bathroom no longer exists. I was at the house last night, the pictures follow below. Floor-to-ceiling windows are not installed yet; objects were laid out as if they were the bathroom fixtures. I think that is self-explanatory.

Option 1 (shower width 90 cm, passage in the middle 70 cm):





Option 2 (shower width 100 cm, passage in shower 75 cm):

To be honest, I think absolutely nothing of your sketch.
You squeeze a wall full of sanitary objects, which has very little to do with feeling comfortable in the room and even less with function. The toilet essentially has no space and is placed diagonally so that you have the washbasin more or less in your face. Two people in the bathroom at the same time “have to deal with each other”.
60 cm for shower entry can work, but then you must not gain any body mass over the next years either. Also important is, of course, the overall length.
I always find it very daring to plan objects in a room without water supply, wall projections, or shelves. Is that a wardrobe bottom left?

Both, in my opinion, have pros and cons, as can also be seen in the pictures & sketches.
What exactly do you mean by "Two people in the bathroom at the same time have to deal with each other"? – Which situations do you mean?
That’s supposed to be a bathroom cabinet.

I think it’s not only terribly cramped from an aesthetic point of view but also impractical. The sink is as far away from the door as possible.

Okay, well, whether I go 2 meters further to the sink or not doesn’t really matter to me. But from outside, I can quickly wash my hands there and maybe save myself taking off dirty shoes.

I am not an advocate of the "crammed" version, but I am also not an opponent.

Two people in parallel in the bathroom are "dealing with each other"? - Which situations do you mean?

Exactly these:

For example, I can sit on the toilet tired/sleepy during teeth brushing and still get the toothpaste into the sink.

The toilet itself has almost no space and is placed diagonally so that you have the washbasin more or less in your face. Two people in parallel in the bathroom are "dealing with each other."

When one is getting ready at the washbasin, the other has to snuggle up to them to get to the toilet. Conversely, knees and head obviously get in the way (unless you are left-handed).

Two people in parallel in the bathroom are "dealing with each other."

.. I don’t know if you’re the only one taking Party-Ole’s suggestion (the name somehow says it all) seriously. This suggestion automatically forbids itself with common sense. However, if you want to make a studio apartment out of 11 sqm, then do it. I actually have to realize (I remember the original crazy idea why you started this thread) that some people astonish me. A house, a bathroom, a renovation or whatever is really too expensive to build on whims. In a garden shed where the men meet at night, you can implement something like this, but not in a room where function is to be implemented tastefully and aesthetically because it should bring joy every day.

This is a house renovation and basically everything has been gutted. The room used to be a children's room; the previous bathroom no longer exists. I was at the house last night, the pictures follow. Floor-to-ceiling windows have not yet been installed; items were laid out as if they were the bathroom fixtures. I think that is self-explanatory.

Option 1 (shower width 90 cm, passage in the middle 70 cm):





Option 2 (shower width 100 cm, passage in shower 75 cm):




Both have, in my opinion, advantages and disadvantages, as can also be seen from the pictures and sketches.
What exactly do you mean by "Two people in the bathroom at the same time have something to do with each other"? — Which situations do you mean?
That is supposed to be a bathroom cabinet.

Okay, well, whether I walk 2 meters further to the sink or not doesn’t matter much to me. But I can quickly wash my hands there from outside and maybe spare myself the effort of taking off dirty shoes.

I am not an advocate of the "cramped" version, but I’m not against it either.

You fell for a small misconception. You cannot open a double-wing window from the outside. So no quick hand washing from outside.
I think the sink should be close to the bathroom door because that’s where you use it most, from the inside.
The sink quickly accessible from outside is great; we have that in the utility room and in the guest bathroom.