Hello and thank you for the many answers and for participating in my question.
I can handle the much criticism, but I also read here some misunderstandings, of course also one or the other useful suggestion.
Therefore again my idea of how it should work in everyday life, the thing with the rollers is just the most obvious thing that came to my mind. It could also be felt gliders instead of rollers or a pedestal that makes the whole thing stable. But I also have to say that the mobile one would have another advantage, namely that we could position the tub for bathing so that we will have a correspondingly nice view from our two terrace doors, possibly even with appropriate sunshine.
So now to everyday life. Laundry collection tub or not, we like it. We do not have constant visitors who also look around accordingly in our bathroom. Nor is it visible from outside since it is a roof terrace on a slope. We just don’t like this tiled-in tub and the other one is simply more ours.
So everyday life:
1. We come home from our outdoor activities that we did after work or before starting work. Mostly in winter we come home frozen and then it’s too much hassle to drive to the wellness 25 minutes away, which we still do occasionally.
2. So laundry, if it is in the tub, out and into the laundry basket etc.
3. Arrange empty tub.
4. Arrange hose so that it goes into the shower drain or other drain.
5. Run water over the showerhead.
6. Person out of the tub, pull the plug --> water drains.
7. Rinse out the tub, water also flows into the drain.
8. If possible, clean behind the tub.
9. Return empty tub to starting position.
DONE! Takes at most 2 minutes longer :-D
No, it doesn’t work. It’s also unsafe or rather dangerous. What do you do if the tub tips over?
Such a tub is simply not placed against a wall or in a corner. Freestanding is really meant seriously. If you don’t have the space, then take a “normal” one. There are also models that look like a bit more...
The tub should not tip over, so take appropriate measures beforehand. --> see written above
The suggested tubs look reasonably good too, especially the first one (y)
The problem is that the filled tub weighs about 400 kg and stands on rollers. And good luck getting the inlet and outlet watertight.
Why don’t you swap the positions of the toilet and tub and place the tub slightly diagonally in the corner?
It does not have to be moved when filled. --> see procedure/handling above ;-)
The position actually still has to be reconsidered, but as far as I know we excluded it for several small reasons. --> will be checked again!
It’s not about the empty state, although 40 kg can also hurt a toddler and the foot of an adult quite a bit, but when the water is inside...
Question: Why terrace door? Is there really a terrace? Or do you just want a floor-to-ceiling view...
Yes, then an appropriate measure must be taken so that it cannot tip over. You can be sure that I am the one with the greatest panic about such things, I am also the safety officer :) Otherwise --> see procedure/handling above ;-)
Yeah, then you just build a bathroom completely new. There is no content difference to building a new house. And what are the false facts in the argument?
You are building a simple DIY solution that only has disadvantages:
- filled bathtub weighing 400kg on small rollers
- rollers (which are unstable by themselves) firmly attached to the underside of the bathtub
- properly mounting the inlet/outlet, especially keeping the outlet watertight
- if someone accidentally bumps into the bathtub (children, guests, you when emptying the tub with clothes) and damages the outlet ==> good luck after the next bathing session
etc.
These are arguments you cannot dismiss. Whether new build or renovation.
And I don’t understand that a bathtub used 2-3 times a month that is not freestanding is not in your interest. I would be much more interested in a well-functioning bathtub than such a botch.
And finally I don’t understand the dirt problem. At most behind the tub, i.e. at the wall, you cannot reach. But that’s irrelevant, if you place it close to the wall as planned, you won’t see dirt anyway.
And lastly, but that is my personal opinion: The tub just looks squashed in the small bathroom and lost. Like wanted but not done well. A freestanding tub needs space. The word “freestanding” already implies that. Or does the catalog say “tub model to be squeezed into a corner”? To have effect, it really has to stand free. Free, without being placed directly against walls.
But that is really a matter of taste.
New build = wall dimensions and room size can be influenced and designed accordingly.
Renovation = wall dimensions and room size are given and only changeable to a limited extent.
Concerning your listed disadvantages/arguments --> see procedure/handling above (then almost all disappear)
For the rest, we are more functional.. --> see also procedure/handling/post above ;-)
1.65 m may look nice. But the tub is therefore useless.
How should the entry into the shower work?
I have sketched the solution to the problem. A bit better with the right dimensions.
Where are the existing drains and connections installed?
Huh, I just measured the dimensions of our current tub in the rental apartment.
Total length = 168 cm
Total width = 73 cm
Inner length (furthest point, is rounded at head & foot) = 154 cm
Inner width top = 52 cm
Inner width bottom = 43 cm
It should be mentioned that if the tub is too long, we have problems keeping afloat.. --> after all, small people!
The entry - just walk in :-D should not cause problems with the tub, since it is narrow anyway at the shower entry (but must be taken into account)
Thanks for your effort with the sketch, the previous one was as stated and warned not to scale and was not created by me.
The drains and connections will be newly installed..
In the correct scale it doesn’t look good.
The terrace door hopefully opens outwards? How do you get into the shower? Where should the towels hang and where is still space for cabinets?
No, it opens inward, but that is also a reason for moving the tub, we need it twice a year that we have both wings completely open and can comfortably bring through our lounge chair.
You just walk into the shower. :-D should not cause problems with the tub, since it is narrow anyway at the shower entry (but must be taken into account)
Towels hang on the other side of the splash guard of the shower and cabinets under the washbasin, possibly still a wall cabinet somewhere and otherwise not so important.
Says the one whose 61 cm is a bit more than 74 cm and about the same as 168 cm. So the sketch is of little use to realistically imagine the situation.
That yes, but the intended everyday use of a design bathtub as laundry collector seems borderline perverse to me. A freestanding tub pushed into the storage corner does not work, but suffocates (my opinion). Incidentally, the OP makes the considerable mistake that the tub before emptying is still really heavy literally and when moving it, forces will act on it that the rollers must capitulate under. Apart from that this construction is not suitable to bear and transfer the weight of the filled tub (opinion of physics).
Sorry, the sketch is not from me, but I already mentioned in my original post that it is not to scale..
Ok, may be that it suffocates, needs to be reconsidered, otherwise --> see also procedure/handling/post above ;-)
Think again about whether you really want to pay such a surcharge for a freestanding tub,
- to use it only 15 times a year
- for which you actually have no space so that it looks really good
- which in the end will not look particularly good anyway if you collect laundry in it
We are thinking about it..
Got another idea. Make a floor drain in the middle of the room, then you could just rinse everything out behind the tub with the showerhead.
I think the recommendation to rethink the entire planning is very appropriate.
Of course the plan will be reconsidered again. Thanks for the note (y)
If the tiles are then 10x10 and white, you have two rooms in one: bathroom AND a set for the amateur horror film :D
Cool, we can still make serious money with the big movie producers :-D
Haha.
That was definitely not meant as teasing, because the drains are also available nowadays in pretty styles:
:-D
That saves the drainage of the shower with good planning as well as mopping up overflowed water with a slightly bigger bathtub (at least 1.8 m) even with 2 people using it.
:-D
Such a Schöner-Wohnen-victim accessory should only be put in the spa palace if you also have the chambermaid who diligently mops through.
Professionally I often stay overnight in hotel rooms with such freestanding pieces and also some of my friends have put such things in their palace. Unfortunately no one has such a central drain and therefore the tub is practically unusable due to flooding that requires an immediate call for the chambermaid. She could discreetly roll you into the next room while mopping the main bath.
Seriously: If you really want a freestanding tub, then buy one. But please keep it properly, i.e. in a bathroom the size of the corresponding Schöner-Wohnen article. Then please don’t move or load it afterwards.
Why is the tub unusable? What is different from a normal tub?
I fully agree with the postscript. However, emptying the tub precedes rinsing it, and the drain chokes badly on that surge. That would top this bad idea.
I do not understand!
Ischhäddetnitschönersaarenkönnen ... Herr Kapellmeister, einen Tusch!
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You mean when he pulls the plug, it comes out of the floor drain?
I think with sufficiently dimensioned ventilation or in the worst case separate downpipe routing (to the washbasin side) this is no problem. The plumber should just calculate that...
Will happen if implemented!
No, I mean: before comfortably rinsing the tub directly above the drain it must first be emptied, overloading the drain. I was far from the issue of reflux or communicating gurgling. It was simply about the peak flow capacity of the drain.
--> see procedure/handling above ;-)
Oh - I think you misunderstood my intention of the floor drain.
The floor drain is to enable cleaning behind the tub without having to move it. And that is independent of whether it was just in use or not. I even imagine as a more frequent case the full bath after the full cleaning of the bathroom, as one is regularly sweaty and muscle tense afterwards...
Certainly :-P