New window lintels on the ground floor are too low.

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Hausbau2k16

2016-10-11 16:32:00
  • #1


Hello Andreas,

that was exactly, surprisingly for me, the argumentation of the managing director yesterday. As an amateur, I am completely left out since the site manager is 100% responsible. I ignore the "blind man with a crutch argument." As mentioned above, I had other things in mind and was able to intervene with helpful hints already during execution - as much as the amateur mind allows. If I could do these works myself, I would not have had it built but done it myself.
Thank you for your summary; until yesterday before the conversation, I thought my assessment was completely off track.

Best regards.
 

ypg

2016-10-11 16:43:09
  • #2












No, only a zero or something like that.

Of course, the construction manager is there for that! No doubt, no question! And a defect has occurred (whether it is immediately obvious or not)

I am obviously of a different opinion here: But you were aware of the fault, and apparently it was reported to the construction manager by you several times. Unfortunately, you have allowed the omission and non-correction to proceed and thus indicated that you TOLERATE it. If it goes to court, in my view you will come out with a relatively small amount, because your knowledge of it (and a lawyer as well as a judge will assume that after you noticed it, you also re-measured) will very likely be seen as partial fault.

Therefore, take what is offered and file the matter under experience. Since you do not want to assign blame anyway, I assume you are aware of your fault.

Edit: once again for clarification: I wish you every thousand, and if the construction manager takes the full burden, okay + great! But in court, it can very well look different!
 

Hausbau2k16

2016-10-11 16:58:42
  • #3

Imagine you bring up something in short intervals, once, twice. Meanwhile, the trades for exterior plaster and interior plaster are working, and at the next site visit you actually measure yourself and find the mistake that none of the professionals wanted to have seen before... You surely know yourself how short the intervals are in which plaster work is done. We were not informed when, for example, the exterior plaster would come and were actually surprised.
Regarding your edit: again, it’s not primarily about financial compensation. I wanted to gauge the numbers or know what such a dismantling/reconstruction would cost. If the general contractor says he will fix the defect and can guarantee that no consequential damage etc. will occur afterward, then he simply rebuilds. I am very relaxed about it, but certainly not the scapegoat.

PS: My waiver of blame results from netiquette and the fact that I do not name any general contractor here publicly but simply ask for ideas, tips, and suggested solutions in a factual manner.
 

Alex85

2016-10-11 17:05:38
  • #4


How much time would have to pass between the defect notifications for tolerance to occur?

The general contractor assumes the risks for the construction of the house. He appoints a site manager for inspection and is liable for the work.
So now it’s a lucky case for the general contractor because the client themselves noticed defects and did not intervene forcefully enough?

Sorry, your portrayal seems completely absurd to me.
 

ypg

2016-10-11 17:11:38
  • #5


It is absolutely not absurd. A responsible citizen is expected to show responsibility by a higher authority. I'll keep it brief: After identifying the defect, a written and proper defect report must be made within two weeks. Even a builder must follow rules and not be sloppy – even though the solidarity of forum members naturally tends to be with the OP. The higher authority has to examine all sides and does not show any solidarity.
 

Alex85

2016-10-11 17:19:15
  • #6


Legal robots have not been invented yet. But one can hope.



The competent citizen enters into an effective contract for work in order to transfer certain risks to a contractor in exchange for remuneration.
Maybe someone will find us again to clarify the obligations arising from the contract for work for the client regarding the acceptance obligation and defect notification. That seems much more important to me now than speculating about competent citizens.
 

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