new heat pump as a replacement for oil heating with existing radiators

  • Erstellt am 2025-09-27 15:51:32

ajokr2025

2025-09-29 18:13:20
  • #1
At least that explains the heating demand of 58000kWh. I still consider the annual performance factor of 4.9 to be optimistically calculated. Such values are achievable with brine, or in the Rhineland or coastal areas, where it rarely gets really cold. But not in Thuringia.
 

nordanney

2025-09-29 18:46:03
  • #2
The car salesman can also promise you that you can always drive at 200 on the highway. That you then burn 20 liters of premium fuel is not his problem. Good that your heat pump offer includes the electric auxiliary heater. That makes the heat cost three times as much in winter compared to the plan, but so what, he didn’t promise low costs. And if you then have higher heating costs than with oil, that is not a defect either. It depends on the usage you want. Enough joking around. You should get a more serious offer. One that will probably be more expensive in investment but not also in operation. Or does it help if you exchange expensive oil for expensive electricity but also have the costs for purchasing the heat pump? Cheaper is a sensible plan with new radiators (according to needs) and significantly lower annual heating costs without loss of comfort. Calculated over the long term.
 

ajokr2025

2025-09-29 18:59:43
  • #3
... and above all: Reputable devices are subsidized at 55%. I don't know if the DWW part is on the list of eligible systems.
Then the DWW offer is only cheap because you do not receive any subsidy. Or rather, the operator cannot pocket it.
 

strzata

2025-09-29 19:54:02
  • #4
The subsidy would actually be formulated airtight in the contract. I can withdraw at any time if the KfW does not subsidize 50% of a maximum of 30,000. It even states that DWW will reimburse the money if it should turn out afterward that the KfW later partially reclaims the subsidy when demanding values again (do they really do that sometimes, or is that just a rip-off?). I am still seriously considering the R32. They strongly advised me against propane because there have allegedly already been explosions with customers and I was informed about it, so that I would have to bear the consequences myself. I am really very grateful to all participants for the lively discussion here in the forum and it makes me rethink everything. Two offers are still in the pipeline. If it becomes more expensive, I will try to get possibly 45,000 EUR subsidized (two-family house).
 

ajokr2025

2025-09-29 20:01:42
  • #5
The indoor air units are not possible at all with R290. Air conditioners still rely on R32 because the explosive R290 is only allowed to be installed outside, and no refrigerant lines are permitted to run inside. R32 cannot explode, but it is just as deadly if inhaled in enclosed spaces. As long as the refrigerant lines are intact, both gases are harmless. Yes, there were once explosions with R290 because a heat exchanger froze, then refrigerant entered the heating circuit and was vented into the heating cellar through a quick vent. That is why such vents are only permitted on the outdoor unit.
 

strzata

2025-09-29 20:05:42
  • #6
THANK YOU! And do you advise me to bring DWW on board if I can’t get further with other companies (and only then)? Or is R32 an absolute no-go?
 

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