Maulwurfbau
2022-11-17 11:23:51
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Hello forum,
I am new here.
We intend to build and have encountered a problem that is causing us headaches. I would like to hear your opinion on it.
A new development area is being developed in our town. After the developments in recent months, the prospects - for us - are good to get a plot. Not so many want to build anymore. The € is no longer loose.
The building requirements are very high. Among other things, a heat concept was developed with the local utility company, which to me rather resembles a stimulus program for the utility company. But maybe I am overlooking something.
For noise reasons, geothermal collectors are being used, laid out extensively by the utility company. The heating technology comes from the utility company and can be used for a fee for 10 or 15 years. The costs are outrageous compared to a standard air-to-water heat pump concept for a KFW 55 or KfW40 house.
About the costs:
A one-time construction subsidy and a connection fee of approximately €25k are to be paid. This covers the collector construction and connection to the network. Then, depending on the performance of the heat pump installed, a basic monthly fee/service charge for provision is to be paid for 10 or 15 years – about €200 to €280/month for 6kW. On top of that are the actual heating costs, here only about 8 cents/kWh.
I am pretty angry because the builders
1) cannot choose their technology
2) are forced to design their economic space so that the utility can integrate their system
3) I am tied down for 10 or 15 years to pay the utility a flat rate
4) After the term ends, I either have to install technology at my own expense (there is only a lifelong right to use the heat source) or somehow continue with further payments to the utility with their system.
5) It is not foreseen/allowed to couple the photovoltaic system with the heat exchanger, only with household electricity. (Sustainable?)
What do you think about this? Clearly, geothermal energy is much more efficient than air heat pumps, but when I add everything up, over 10 or 15 years I will have paid a total of €58k to €64k (connection costs + technology rent + service fee, etc.) to the local utility, and that’s before the heat even flows, which comes on top, I own none of it, and I have to see how to continue in 10-15 years with further costs.
I consider this extreme usury and rather a sustainable stimulus program for the local utility, and not a sustainable heating concept.
What am I overlooking? This whole thing is sold to the builders as especially sustainable. Environment and all that. And no one complains, construction is happening like crazy.
I am new here.
We intend to build and have encountered a problem that is causing us headaches. I would like to hear your opinion on it.
A new development area is being developed in our town. After the developments in recent months, the prospects - for us - are good to get a plot. Not so many want to build anymore. The € is no longer loose.
The building requirements are very high. Among other things, a heat concept was developed with the local utility company, which to me rather resembles a stimulus program for the utility company. But maybe I am overlooking something.
For noise reasons, geothermal collectors are being used, laid out extensively by the utility company. The heating technology comes from the utility company and can be used for a fee for 10 or 15 years. The costs are outrageous compared to a standard air-to-water heat pump concept for a KFW 55 or KfW40 house.
About the costs:
A one-time construction subsidy and a connection fee of approximately €25k are to be paid. This covers the collector construction and connection to the network. Then, depending on the performance of the heat pump installed, a basic monthly fee/service charge for provision is to be paid for 10 or 15 years – about €200 to €280/month for 6kW. On top of that are the actual heating costs, here only about 8 cents/kWh.
I am pretty angry because the builders
1) cannot choose their technology
2) are forced to design their economic space so that the utility can integrate their system
3) I am tied down for 10 or 15 years to pay the utility a flat rate
4) After the term ends, I either have to install technology at my own expense (there is only a lifelong right to use the heat source) or somehow continue with further payments to the utility with their system.
5) It is not foreseen/allowed to couple the photovoltaic system with the heat exchanger, only with household electricity. (Sustainable?)
What do you think about this? Clearly, geothermal energy is much more efficient than air heat pumps, but when I add everything up, over 10 or 15 years I will have paid a total of €58k to €64k (connection costs + technology rent + service fee, etc.) to the local utility, and that’s before the heat even flows, which comes on top, I own none of it, and I have to see how to continue in 10-15 years with further costs.
I consider this extreme usury and rather a sustainable stimulus program for the local utility, and not a sustainable heating concept.
What am I overlooking? This whole thing is sold to the builders as especially sustainable. Environment and all that. And no one complains, construction is happening like crazy.