KfW - construction: is it necessary or not?

  • Erstellt am 2020-06-24 11:13:54

pagoni2020

2020-06-24 13:08:23
  • #1
I believe that you cannot base it on individual values. Many people drive fuel-efficient cars but unnecessarily cover a lot of kilometers or have the craziest heating systems yet waste an infinite amount of resources through their daily behavior or install ecologically pointless things elsewhere in the house. Heating, water, and electricity consumption with care serves ecology much more than squeezing out the last calculated percent somewhere, which I then multiply throw out the window again in everyday life at the thermostat. I have met people in the world who bury their waste behind the house or throw it into the water. Nevertheless, compared to us here, they live many times more ecologically because they do not even have all that stuff available. Therefore, I believe that one should consider the entire package for oneself.
 

Smialbuddler

2020-06-24 13:13:52
  • #2

I don't want to at all
I just want to point out that not everything labeled "this will make my house an eco-house" really leads to an ecologically less harmful house. A lot sounds good in the brochure, but overall calculated it may even be more harmful/resource-intensive than a "conventional" solution.
On the contrary, I often unfortunately feel that especially builders who construct an "eco-house" are very missionary. Without really taking all components into account.
 

saralina87

2020-06-24 13:15:55
  • #3
And yet, compared to the heat pump, the gas heating system is not more ecological. I don't care at all how others build their houses, really, I have absolutely no claim to the ultimate, morally correct answer to climate change – and I mean that completely seriously. What I do find a bit hypocritical, however, is to pretend that eco-houses and heat pumps and alternatives are not better anyway than, for example, gas heating, because one also drives a car... That makes no sense. Either I want to build ecologically or not.
 

T_im_Norden

2020-06-24 13:16:02
  • #4


No. Suppose you build your house with a heat pump and source 100% green electricity. Since only a limited amount of this electricity is available, electricity must be generated with coal or gas to compensate for your consumption. This can lead to the situation where it would be more ecological to produce little CO2 with an efficient condensing boiler than to generate electricity with "a lot" of CO2 in a coal power plant.
 

Tassimat

2020-06-24 13:22:48
  • #5

That's a typical "pub conversation," just in construction. Ask three people and you get four opinions.


So what? First of all, it depends on how you build. Via an architect? Then he might even be qualified enough himself, or he can arrange something cheaply. Or you build a standard house via a general contractor, then that is priced accordingly. And even if you want to find and hire a consultant yourself, you can pick either an inexpensive or expensive one.


What an empty statement. When the sun sets, it gets dark....

As said, it's also about maintaining the subsidy, and the consultant will tell you which measures make sense and which do not.


Nonsense.
A battery is not financially worthwhile. My recommendation: leave it out.
Whether gas or air-water heat pump, in my opinion, doesn't matter. Subsidy-wise, air-water heat pumps are well supported and, combined with underfloor heating, a great thing. On the other hand, I consider gas very mature and technically quite inexpensive. With the new pipelines, the gas price remains low.
 

Tolentino

2020-06-24 13:24:08
  • #6
If you already draw the balance up to electricity generation, you must not stop before the flow of money. Because if I sign an electricity supply contract with a purely green electricity provider, they in turn invest the money exclusively in renewable electricity generation. Thus, this leads to an expansion of exactly these electricity generation sources, which makes the overall electricity mix more ecological.
 

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