Insulate condominium with moldy corners afterward

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-19 14:39:53

DaSch17

2020-12-20 23:41:41
  • #1
Since yesterday, our first step has been to heat the bedroom during the day to 23-24 degrees, ventilate once more crosswise before going to bed, and then turn the temperature down to 20-21 degrees.

The mold infestation is only superficial and just a few square centimeters in size. I will remove it tomorrow with isopropanol.

The solution with the [Dämmputz] currently seems the most reasonable to me. We wanted to have the bedroom replastered anyway.
 

Joedreck

2020-12-21 06:09:05
  • #2
That does not feel like a good idea. Especially at night, there is a high level of moisture. And then you also lower the temperature.
 

DaSch17

2020-12-21 06:45:05
  • #3


You still have to be able to sleep in the room. The moist air is then aired out in the morning. So it is in the air for at most a few hours.
 

Joedreck

2020-12-21 07:01:56
  • #4
Take a cold cola from the fridge and see how long it takes for condensation to form? On the wall it will take a bit longer, but depending on the insulation standard, it can become problematic before morning. So still be careful. As already mentioned: measure and compare infrared thermometer and wall temperatures. And set up the hygrometer for monitoring. Is there a possibility of decentralized ventilation? Especially because the exterior facade would be affected? There are also devices with heat recovery.
 

fach1werk

2020-12-21 08:18:34
  • #5
I would not cover such a wall under the given conditions with anything that is not permeable. We know nothing about the building envelope. I would renew the plaster in affected areas, mycelia are inside the wall and not on top, and afterwards would paint the bare plaster with lime paint. Here too, the tenant would need to be obliged, otherwise in the end they will have beautified it with latex paint.

Best regards, Gabriele
 

DaSch17

2020-12-21 13:58:40
  • #6


The building expert already did that last winter. In his opinion, no special irregularities except for the high dew point (which, however, is not unusual for exterior wall corners).

Several unfavorable circumstances coincide in our case:

1. Bedroom as the tendentially coldest room with direct access to the two most humid and warm rooms of the apartment (bathroom + kitchen). Result: humidity automatically migrates into the bedroom due to temperature differences. Measure: exhaust hood in the kitchen and bathroom fan in the bathroom.

2. Additional humidity is produced overnight in the bedroom.

3. Two of the four bedroom walls are exterior walls and the corner of these two exterior walls is the coldest spot, so humidity condenses there quickly.

Therefore, the idea is to lower the dew point by additional insulation from the inside so that humidity no longer condenses on the exterior walls. Execution, of course, by a professional.



They have already been standing in the bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen for 1 year. That's why I also know that the humidity in the bedroom never permanently exceeds 55%.



That's clear. Either single units, which are never powerful enough (e.g. Bayernventilator), or decentralized residential ventilation, which would then have to be installed in all rooms throughout the apartment. Cost approx. 7-9 thousand EUR.

Therefore, like the calcium silicate board insulation, it would rather be a last resort.



The specialized company would certainly remove the old plaster at the affected spots beforehand and then plaster with the new insulating plaster. Therefore, in my opinion, there is no risk that the mycelium remains in the wall.

We would then, of course, make painting with lime or silicate paint mandatory in the lease agreement.

Well. To be honest, I am a bit at a loss too. I actually do not want to commission another expert because we had rather bad experiences with the last one (appointment duration 15 minutes and bill 400 EUR). I have now called a renovation specialist company. They will come in the next few days and then make a cost estimate. Let's see what they propose.
 

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