House construction on a slope (Central Hesse)

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11ant

2020-03-02 13:43:29
  • #1
Where exactly is the property described with heights and quotes from the text section of the development plan (or where can it be found - please provide the name, not a link)?
 

Hausi1909

2020-03-02 13:48:53
  • #2


I had attached those as images in my initial post. Here again is the surveyor's result regarding elevations. Is this enough for you?
 

11ant

2020-03-02 13:57:09
  • #3
Not entirely, because only building heights were mentioned - not the restrictions on terrain modeling.
 

Hausi1909

2020-03-02 19:11:41
  • #4


In my initial post, I also mentioned the slope in the text, but it doesn't matter anyway. We have to see how we can make the best out of it now. In my opinion, it shouldn't make a difference whether it's split-level or not. The eaves height ultimately limits us at the back in terms of height.

We also had another conversation with a different BU who clearly told us that it would be difficult not to dig ourselves in at the back with this development plan. Split-level was also mentioned.

We want to first try to get an exemption. For this, the BU put us in contact with a local architect who seems to be very well connected with the municipality. Through the architect, we will explore our options and get a sense of how he sees our chances.

Thank you very much for your constructive comments, tips, and experiences!
 

Hausi1909

2021-01-13 12:45:02
  • #5
Hello everyone,

this whole process has taken a bit longer than we had hoped.

However, we have now decided on an architect with whom we will carry out the planning up to the building permit application.
Here we have to go through an exception/waiver because our eaves height will probably be about 50 - 80 cm higher than stated in the development plan.

We have now received the first drafts from the architect. I would like to share these with you.
Overall, the house is still a bit too big, as we have only budgeted about €400,000 for the house (turnkey).
We would really like a roof terrace, which the architect has also included accordingly.
Do you think that the €400k for the turnkey house (excluding ancillary costs – we have budgeted about €100,000 for ancillary costs/surveillance)
is realistic if the living area shrinks by about 20 sqm?
Is the roof terrace cost-wise just as expensive per sqm as enclosed living space or even more expensive?

Our fears were that due to the development plan (max eaves height 5m / max ridge height 9.5m) and the slope with about 3.5m incline along the length of the plot
from the street (which is the reference point for the eaves height) we would have to dig extremely deep into the garden at the back.
However, this does not seem to be quite so dramatic when we look at the terrain cross-sections, or what do you think?

What we still want to try is to move the house a little towards the northeast, because in the southwest directly on our property
there is a path running along and we would only have about 3m distance between our terrace and the path. We are concerned that this
distance is too small and you always feel a bit observed/listened to.
Does anyone have experience with this?

Regarding the floor plan itself: we are basically satisfied with the layout for now. However, we would like to save some hallway space
and use the gained area for the rooms or save it overall, so that the house can become a bit smaller.
In this regard, the idea was possibly to use a different type of staircase or to remove the hall and plan the stairs directly adjacent to the windbreak.
So far, however, we have not found a good solution for this.

We are completely done with the split-level variant. We looked at it in two houses and it did not appeal to us at all.

I/we are very curious about your comments/suggestions and tips :)
Thanks a lot in advance!





 

11ant

2021-01-13 13:13:00
  • #6

I would remove the "a bit." And one should choose an architect rather than a draftsman not least because a) she talks you out of such a huge smoker’s balcony for the child and b) manages on both sides not to have to (or rather: not want to, because I rely on the reasonableness of the bureaucratic fungus) raise the eave heights by "50 to 80 cm."
The house is way too big. If you are not dual earners in pay grade A14, it is beyond your means—at least it offers endless space where none is needed. School yourselves in your sense of scale. And yes, the suspicion is correct: per square meter, a roof terrace easily ends up costing at least as much as fully enclosed space.
 

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