Home automation planning and costs

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Sebastian79

2016-08-23 08:39:36
  • #1
Most providers understand home automation as controlling heating/ventilation via an app and at most programmable blinds - that's it.

And of course, if you master KNX and can advise people, you can make a lot of money with it.

Many people also believe that KNX consists of beautiful switches and that you control a lot through them. KNX is more the art of visible omission - and not everyone can handle that. Unfortunately, enough electricians do not implement it - KNX is installed, but thought of and equipped conventionally.
 

Mycraft

2016-08-23 10:38:12
  • #2


If you do a KNX installation and also plan for the future and lay the bus cable everywhere where something can be switched, then it is worth it. Then you can later quickly rewire something, or add another switch or similar here or there.

But if you install conventional wiring, then the bus cable next to it is as useful as a fifth wheel.

Of course, you could then install flush-mounted actuators with great difficulty, but you end up spending many times more than a proper KNX installation would have originally cost, and with flush-mounted actuators you also have fewer possibilities.

Conclusion:

With a KNX installation, it is worth thinking about where something might be later and laying the bus cable and possibly power cables there... with a conventional installation, a bus cable is superfluous...



People thought the same about computers and mobile communication and many other things that are everyday today. In industry and commercial sectors, nothing works anymore without bus systems.



I posted a graphic further up. There you can see from when KNX becomes cheaper. If you get a competent partner on board and avoid unnecessary frills, KNX isn’t as expensive as it is always claimed to be.



The heating in a modern house regulates itself with or without KNX or another bus system. Provided you have a heating system with some intelligence on board and the rest is sensibly built and set up. You really don’t need KNX for this… in an old building, the situation is quite different.

Your blind switches were not necessarily more expensive… probably much cheaper even… but they likely cannot do more than blind up/down… here a bus system has much more potential…

But it’s similar again to the phone… some people just need it to make calls, and others to listen to music, surf the internet, and write messages.

Your normal switches are like a rotary phone. KNX blind switches are a smartphone by comparison.

But to each their own.



Not only the providers… especially the builders often don’t want anything else.
 

Legurit

2016-08-23 11:10:03
  • #3
Describe a typical day with KNX... I would really be interested to know how KNX has such an impact on life like smartphones do. By the way, your argument with "people said the same about computers" is flawed... there are many more inventions in history that have disappeared.
 

Sebastian79

2016-08-23 11:13:25
  • #4
I also doubt that KNX can be compared with the smartphone, the PC, or the car - but it doesn't matter. It's like with plasma TVs - the best technology gets talked down and fails due to stupid circumstances. KNX probably won't disappear, but it will remain a niche product because it is simply firmly anchored in people's minds as "expensive" & "toy".
 

Mycraft

2016-08-23 11:47:50
  • #5
KNX has the opposite effect of smartphones.

Because smartphones have made us constantly stare at the screen and forget everything else around us.

Everyday life with KNX looks like this: you simply don't see the technology and don't constantly stare at screens etc. and have to operate something.

KNX does 90% of all the work in the background.

Lights turn on and off automatically, meaning we only operate the switches very, very rarely. The blinds go up in the morning and down in the evening... the rooms are shaded when there is sunlight.

The ventilation automatically increases or decreases depending on the pollution level of the air.

When you sleep you are not woken up by blinds going up... unless you want this.

At night the lights in the passage areas turn on dimmed and then off again.

And so on and so forth...

Yes, you don't need it... you can also operate everything by hand while passing by... but it's not just that... you get functions that you can't even dream of with conventional installations.
 

Sebastian79

2016-08-23 11:49:23
  • #6
It's always the question whether you want it that way... I just like interaction. And I also like to change my preference very quickly...
 

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