Gap in building / Access for surrounding properties / §34 Neighbor development

Because with a low roof pitch, either there is too little headroom or the roof has to be raised so much that a full story is created underneath. It seems to me that the plot is well suited for a house of the desired size, but you will have to give up the low roof pitch there. However, the desired living size can easily be accommodated in a one-and-a-half-story house. More even – or rather: on the contrary, a two-story house is uneconomical for this. What makes you want it so much?

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I just really like these houses incredibly much. Furthermore, I find sloping ceilings in the living area terrible. And finally, it is also about the sense of space. My wish would be to have no ceiling in the upper floor, but directly the roof. Then the rooms are so wonderfully open.

If nothing is currently recorded in the land register, then there is no right of way and you can close off the access! Here you would have an approach to impose the paving costs on the neighbors in exchange for a right of way. Of course, this only works if the plots can be accessed otherwise and you have thick skin for neighborhood disputes.

The house at the back can only be used via the access road – the neighboring house on the street could also place its garage in the front yard.

Whoever builds from the outside in, builds expensively and restricts themselves inside. The interior of the house is more important to me than the exterior. I say this as an engineer... architects will shoot me now

Basically, I understand the objection. However, it is also important for us how the house looks from the outside. I am very sure that if we ever find the right plot, we will find a wonderful solution for the interior and exterior values. The architect should also have something to do.

The area looks quite nice, I wouldn't throw away the plot just because a two-story building isn't allowed there. I would leave it undivided, then you can also use the driveway. What would have made dust, dusted over the fence anyway – don't get yourself worked up about it. You use the neighboring house as an argument to adopt the eaves height – then you gain on the knee wall at the top, which the neighbor has as a base under his raised ground floor. Downstairs, you build more floor area than upstairs, then avoiding a full floor works. Gather bedrooms, utility room, study upstairs – then the sloping roof won't "bother" you (although I pity you if you can't appreciate the charm of the sloping roof). What kind of person are you anyway: would the village also be home to you, or are you a city dweller who just didn't find anything in the suburbs?

The area looks quite nice, I wouldn’t give up the plot just because you can’t build a two-story house on it. I would keep it undivided so you can share the access road. What would create dust would also create dust across the fence – don’t get worked up about it. Use the neighboring house as an argument to adopt the eaves height – then you gain knee wall height upstairs that the neighbor has as a base under his raised ground floor. Downstairs, you build more floor area than upstairs, then you avoid a full second story. Gather bedrooms, utility room, study upstairs – then the sloped roof won’t “bother” you (although I pity you for not being able to appreciate the charm of a sloped roof). What kind of person are you anyway: would the village also be home to you, or are you a city dweller who just didn’t find anything in the suburbs?

I have just sent out the rejection. The location is truly fantastic. Lots of lakes around and you can be at the beach in Scharbeutz within a few minutes. And all that for €115/sqm.

We simply don’t need the access road at all and I like to minimize effort.

For my wife and me, the sloped roof has absolutely no charm: My wife grew up in an old fisherman’s cottage in Travemünde (2 minutes on foot from the water) and felt totally cramped by the slopes. Dormers were added later, but that didn’t change the principle. They are simply a hindrance. And I come from a small town of 20,000 inhabitants in the Hamburg metropolitan area and want to raise my children in a quiet idyll. Preferably close to the Baltic Sea.

Furthermore, my wife and I have made the following decision: It will either be an extravagant Tuscan villa (my wife’s wish) or the two-story house I want. For the Tuscan villa, we would need a larger plot, so it was already pretty clear which house it should be.

Now we will continue our search. Our hope rests on some new housing developments that are to be realized in the future. However, over 400 people have already put their names on the lists in some cases...

I just sent the rejection. The location is really fantastic. Many lakes around and in a few minutes you are at the beach in Scharbeutz. And all that for €115/sqm. We simply don’t need the access road and I like to minimize effort

The rejection is a pity, but it will certainly please someone else. An access road is also useful to you yourself; firstly, you can then omit it elsewhere, and secondly, as long as it is not separated, it finally counts towards your floor area ratio base. Although this is not formally defined in §34 areas, it is basically given by the average land sealing of the surrounding properties. You should still read up on this and a few other things for your further search and planning process. Using the search term "11ant Barthel" should lead you in the forum search to my tips on how to get hold of the rare building land.

Before I put myself at position 401 on a waiting list, I would take the property. 1. Guaranteed property 2. Immediately buildable 3. I would not wait for a new property that you might get someday at a possibly higher price, with a development plan that does not comply with any wishes. Send a picture of your desired houses to the building authority and ask if that is possible. Otherwise, there are also nice gable roof houses. Just Google Schöner Wohnen gable roof with loft feeling.

Before I would put myself at position 401 on a waiting list, I would take the property.

You and I think alike, but we also don’t have an allergy to sloping ceilings.