Floor plan - what do you say?

Please note: the kitchen is a dead end and too small, not the pantry... There are no "best floor plans," as almost every do-it-yourself floor plan is more or less subject to criticism, and one does not find out here what is actually implemented.

It would be good if, along with the criticism, there is also a detailed indication or suggestion for improvement; otherwise, it is pointless. Why and where is the kitchen supposed to be too small/narrow? 1.15 m between the island and the rear wall element. At the 4-person seating area, the countertop has a 25 cm overhang, so that in total there is about 85 cm of space to sit. That is not huge but sufficient. We have meanwhile been to 3 kitchen studios with the design, and none of them mentioned that space is lacking anywhere. Especially as we are building with a pantry. Do not get me wrong - I am open to suggestions for improvement. That is why I am posting here. But please then provide reasons.

Sorry, I don’t see the floor plan as final yet – there are still some hidden knots that cannot be fixed by moving walls.

On the topic of constructive criticism: I don’t see any approach in this jumble to quickly improve it.

Since we can still move walls or plan a half-spiral staircase at the moment, we are still open to feedback on our "jumble"

It would be good if criticism also came with detailed hints or suggestions for improvement, otherwise it’s pointless

Please read all this again. We don’t know the rest of the property, no site plan. Someone here already mentioned that, so one cannot make constructive comments at all. I am only objectively mentioning the things that don’t work. A staircase that doesn’t function, a chimney you bump into... Of course there is cupboard space in the kitchen, but not space for 3 or 4 people IN the kitchen. It’s not just one person standing there and the others in front of the counter being served. One cooks, the second has to get to the plates, then the third person comes and stands in front of the fridge... Or how is it if the kids cook along: then 3 people will be stepping on each other’s feet and won’t get past one another, at least it’s very difficult. You have to decide at the beginning: a bigger house design without a basement or something smaller and with a basement – it goes without saying that one or the other is no longer possible if the budget sets a limit. Just take a look on Google for house designs in your size: are the walls as intricate as yours? Maybe just reconsider whether is not right about the pantry, to include it in the hallway. Or why have a shower on a floor where there is no sleeping area? Why not have a shower where a sauna is supposed to go? And what I only now see: your room partition between dining and kitchen: nobody has space to sit at the counter! In a “small” ground floor, there is no room for a 2.20 m table, a kitchen island with counter, an additional kitchen/dining partition, pantry, shower, and fireplace – you can twist and turn that however you want. At least a layman can hardly or not at all implement that. Why do you stick to a room program that apparently causes you problems? You talked about the final draft at the beginning, and I’m of the opinion that you are still several months away from that if you don’t hand the matter to a planner or architect.

Regards, Yvonne

Edit: Remove the kitchen island, remove the sliding door, and plan an open-plan kitchen with L-shaped kitchen.

Well, then take a look at the property. The gray element on the left side is the neighboring house. South is at the bottom, west on the left.

Just a quick sketch.. no problem lot

The door to the storage/pantry can be swapped with the wardrobe... access to the garage/entrance/pantry is thus very short!

Regards Yvonne

Are there any other opinions from other users?