Floor plan new construction - Please provide feedback

  • Erstellt am 2014-03-06 11:41:45

Alex1211

2014-03-06 20:24:31
  • #1
First of all, thank you for your comments.

Now, I have to make a few remarks.

We have already discussed the "rough floor plan" with the architect. So this is not just a shot in the dark but rather quite specific to us.
What we have definitely excluded from the beginning is a floor plan that is simply practical. What you call "just circulation area" is exactly what we want. Space and openness. The living/dining/kitchen area was a must from the start, to have at least 65 sqm in one room. Our first house already has a super practical floor plan but we lack that feeling of space.
Still, I find your comments great and they help.
- Kitchen: The pure work surface along the wall is about 1.4 m, the free kitchen island also has work surface left. Although we don’t yet know whether the sink will actually be in the island or in the kitchen row. But you are right, it is not huge. The white line between the extension and the main house is simply a mistake by me.

Table: You are right, we will make the extension half a meter wider.

That is basically my biggest conclusion from your comments so far. The whole house will be 0.5 m wider overall, which adds up to around €13,000 and accordingly also provides more space for the children's rooms. [
The small toilets: true, but how much time do you spend on them? Glass in the shower has always been our dream. Besides, it visually enlarges the bedroom and makes both rooms brighter. The comment about temperature differences is good. We hadn’t thought about that. Maybe we will still put a glass door between.
Windows or doors: There is definitely room for improvement here. You are right, several doors will still be converted into windows or also into fixed glass panels. But it is true, we want as much glass as possible, since we don’t have direct neighbors who can look in. We already own the plot and it is only visible from one side (visible at the entrance door).
Doors: Where it doesn’t fit, sliding doors will be installed that are recessed into the wall and not hung in front.
Statics: Of course, a prefabricated house also needs interior walls and/or supports. At least because of shear forces. This has already been coordinated; there will additionally be a metal support at the staircase. The technical room is sufficient in this size for the air/water heating system, washing machine, dryer, and there is also space prepared for a later battery block if these become affordable. There is also still room for a shoe cabinet... The entrance area is enough for coats, shoes... Probably we will extend the wall to the kitchen by another meter. Space for a stroller, bicycles, and everything else that usually lies in the basement we have in front of the house, as we planned the double garage 7m wide and 9m deep, which serves as our basement replacement.

I was already aware that the floor plan does not follow the typical "square-practical-good" principle, but tastes and priorities differ. For us, living comfort is defined by wide views and rooms. We have seen a similar floor plan with an open staircase in the middle of the living area and we like it.

I hope I didn’t make too many typos here but the platform is just too slow and swallows letters.

I look forward to your comments, whether positive or negative. The main thing is that it helps us.
Next week we want to finalize everything with the architect because we want to move in by January at the latest.
 

ypg

2014-03-06 22:58:29
  • #2
Space! What does space mean to you? Traffic area is not space. Space is a design element or it becomes space through such elements. Sight lines also turn a room into space.

Please show me a successful sight line in this design that gives you a sense of openness! The only one would be the view into the shower, if the bed were turned and behind it not a toilet door swings open, but a stylish washbasin is suggested :)

If a sofa is just squeezed into a corner, you cannot speak of space or openness. If my view from the sofa must look towards the front door, the right space is not present. What you want is not given here. Don’t believe that everyone in this forum lives square, practical, good, and that everyone here would be boring just because they appreciate that not every view in the house must fall on a pile of jackets and shoes.

A kitchen squeezed into a corner also does not create space. If your drawn staircase on the ground floor were viewed from above as a kitchen unit, one could speak of space (please do not confuse this with a room – I mean SPACE).

My coffee machine (KVA) about 30 cm wide has space, namely 60 cm of surface width. Yep, it’s staged (one can afford that without kids ;)) My stylish kettle is similar. Added to this is the common work surface of about 4 meters. How should a space arise from your standard kitchen unit?

By "discussing a rough floor plan" I understand: one shows the architect their design, who looks at it (and not through it), nods, says yeah yeah and then draws something real, which has little to do with the design...

So, now name me one sight line in your design that turns a room into space. Where is the necessary depth? The elements that make your construct into spaces? Unfortunately, I do not see them!
 

backbone23

2014-03-06 23:36:19
  • #3
Statics ... so two steel columns by the staircase are enough? :confused:

At first they say there is no money to make the house bigger, suddenly €13,000 is no problem? Sliding doors should also be more expensive, right?

Where does the wastewater from upstairs actually go?

I would be surprised if this "rough floor plan" as seen here has already been approved by an architect.
 

Alex1211

2014-03-07 00:50:02
  • #4
You can be surprised, no problem. I understand that you don't like it but that was not the question. And of course the architect will still change things, especially windows...... But the structure, room allocation.... is completed except for details. It's great that not all tastes are the same, otherwise probably every house would have a gable roof and a similar floor plan. Many people also don't like the flat roof and it doesn't have only advantages.

Money: of course we still have a bit of leeway and we are talking about approximately 195 sqm after resizing. By bigger I meant significantly more. We have 3 top priorities with the finances:
1. Equity at least 60%, thus super low interest
2. Must be paid off within 10 years at the latest
3. There must be at least 15% leeway in the financing for unforeseen events.
As you can see, we are planning super conservatively.
 

ypg

2014-03-07 01:00:50
  • #5
This forum is not about pleasing anyone... You might have had a look at some other posts.
It's about - whether very individual or standard - the objectivity of function and aesthetics.

Criticism must be endured, positive things are also mentioned here!
The advice that comes from us users can be questioned by oneself, but does not have to be.
We don't care - but some here like to give advice - often it's hints as plain as day - if you don't notice the dripping wound,...

... What about the sightlines?? Where are your rooms, which I asked about? Is this a one-way street, I am happy not to write any more answers. Good night :)
 

Bauexperte

2014-03-07 01:02:34
  • #6
Good evening,


Don’t be mad at me, but I don’t like to believe that. Reinforcing the cantilevered staircase is not enough to absorb the loads with your floor plan. You will need supports in the external walls as well as several beams, which could become a problem because the alignments are not one above the other.

PS: I quickly changed it, it should say supports and not concrete columns. Sorry!

Rhenish regards
 

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