Floor plan design city villa 180m² with basement

But that will probably happen if you use the bathroom in the middle of the children's rooms in the morning. At least your fear is justified in your planning here! From your point of view, you shouldn't arrange the bathroom between the rooms.

Personally, I always wonder what parents think about how their children or other family members might react to ambient noises.
In my opinion, no one has a problem with considerate interaction regarding noises – not even toilet flushing or other water sounds.

Well then... Happy New Year :)

With us it is like this: when the children finally sleep and I want to take a bath or shower in peace, they often wake up again because of the noise and the whole circus starts all over. Very annoying. And depending on the child's sensitivity to waking, this affects the first 5 years of life with us. So it's not a temporary thing. Especially when you have 2 children with, say, a two-year gap, it could be a total of 7 years.

With us, it is such that when the children finally fall asleep and I want to take a bath or shower in peace, they often wake up again because of the noise and the whole circus starts over. Very annoying. And this applies, depending on the child's wakefulness, to the first 5 years of life with us. So it is not a temporary thing. Especially if you have 2 children with, say, a two-year gap, it could then be a total of 7 years.

Is it possible to view the floor plan from you anywhere? So do you also have the bathroom directly next to the children's rooms and what wall thickness did you choose there respectively, wood studs or bricks?

Is it possible to see the floor plan from you anywhere? So, do you also have the bathroom directly next to the children's rooms and what wall thickness did you choose there or wooden studs or bricks?

No, no floor plan. We still live in the "old" house, so I don't have a floor plan at the moment. The bathroom is next to one of the children's rooms and the toilet is next to our bedroom. Since children/baby sleep in both rooms in the evening, starting at about 7 pm you can only use the toilet and bathroom on tiptoes and even then someone often wakes up. Relaxation is something else [emoji18]. And actually, the house is not that thin-walled. Maybe we have sensitive children. But when parents talk honestly among themselves, I often hear similar stories.

So I think it is not a must to redesign the bathroom for you. But voluntarily, I would not put myself through that again. That’s why we planned the bathrooms differently for the new house.

Solid house, 30 years old. I don't know any details at the moment.

Our top priority was to separate the bedrooms from each other. Therefore, I see no other option for the bathroom either. The only question is how to construct the walls so that the noise level in the adjacent rooms is as low as possible. Thanks for the explanation!

Even though one shouldn't have exaggerated expectations about how increased wall thickness or density would work - you can already contribute with calcium silicate bricks for the two affected walls; in the children's rooms, then additionally clad with sound insulation panels.

One should not imagine sound as acting too directly either; the secondary transmission through vibrating adjacent components, etc., is often underestimated. A bad example: if a separating strip is forgotten and the screed no longer floats, you have an excellent transmission path.

The best way to avoid sound is at the source: if you wear bath slippers while blow-drying your hair and stand on a carpet, that already makes a (small) difference compared to being barefoot on tiles.

It also helps a lot to consistently use pre-wall installations instead of chasing walls for pipes. You can achieve a lot with that, whereas classic acoustic building measures like textile wall coverings or perforated ceilings in the bathroom are not used.

How useful gypsum boards (i.e., for example, a thin layer of KS plus a thin gypsum board towards the children's room) would be here, I have not yet researched.