Floor plan 180 sqm plus basement - 12.40m x 9.04m

  • Erstellt am 2016-06-24 20:23:26

ypg

2016-06-25 21:35:16
  • #1
I traced your draft with my program and found that although the floor area is very generous, some measurements do not work. For example, your 180 in the rough construction measurement for the three tall cabinets should be larger; otherwise, they do not fit into the recess. The depth must also accommodate an outlet including the plug, so also 70? cm. The shower toilet becomes tighter with pre-installations, and it is already very tight now. The terrace door in the kitchen would be obstructive when opened, and the west window is too small for my taste. The staircase: it can’t be any smaller—my program had issues, at least when it comes to optimal walkability. In my opinion, the room sizes also conflict with the space-saving staircase. I admit a space-saving staircase looks somewhat different, but with these dimensions, it is a staircase used for terraced houses to save space. One could rotate the staircase by 90 degrees or bring another staircase into the plan. However, I have no inclination to make further changes to this draft because then it becomes a different house. There is a difference in planning the ground floor on 60 or 90 sqm of living space, but whether you watch TV in the corner to have space for a messy room next to it eludes me. I am also not a fan of oversized children’s rooms. That reminds me: the space in the bedroom for the wardrobe is not deep enough. A wardrobe with doors can easily measure 70/75 depth. And you are drawing rough construction measurements! ... You don’t store bedding in the bathroom because it might get damp, and a chimney should be adapted to the roof: the exterior wall is unsuitable because the chimney would then have to be built disproportionately high above the roof. That’s briefly what I noticed.
 

Legurit

2016-06-25 22:02:47
  • #2
At this point: definitely pay attention to the position of light switches ^^ We had 1-2 spots where it didn’t go as planned - for example, downstairs we took the 30cm Pax and not the deep ones, because otherwise switches and ventilation would have been in the way (it’s not dramatic, since they now have the perfect depth for our boxes and the room already feels a bit more spacious). Otherwise, I agree with Yvonne - what is this room at the end of the living room supposed to be? In the 425 it’s a walk-through room, but with you it’s more like a worm extension. What do you want to do there? Sort papers or iron? I would swap shower and toilet in the downstairs bathroom and move the window somewhere else. The pantry always confuses me - but you will probably store brooms, vacuum cleaner, and maybe some drinks there, right? In the living room, you’re already at risk of the yawning empty space. One of the kids’ rooms is furnished horribly... Better plan thicker walls between the kids’ rooms and between the parents’ and kids’ rooms - kids make noise :D
 

Otus11

2016-06-26 10:22:05
  • #3
Stairs too cramped for the house size.

Ground floor: NW side too dark. A strip window above the sofa could help. I would make all windows higher and larger. Ground floor should have a finished floor height of 2.70 m.

Costs in mind? With basement, that is "all inclusive" without land. Up front, the big 5 lights....
 

Grym

2016-06-26 11:28:51
  • #4

So with 3 floors, 3 vacuum cleaners, 3 mop buckets, 3 brooms, etc.?


The size is okay, but do I still have to consider installation, wall, etc.?


Bedding in the bedroom or in the children's rooms, and towels, toilet paper, shampoo, etc. in the bathroom — that's how I had actually thought about it.


Well, the back of a PC monitor doesn't look sexy, nor does the PC itself or all the cables. That's what I meant by that.


The two walls would be drywall anyway and would then be done by the kitchen builder, so that it fits.


Ok


What do you mean by inconvenient? Of course, you can’t take something out of the cabinet at exactly that spot when the door is open. Other than that, it shouldn’t be planned too tight (terrace door 112 cm or 130 cm passage or something like that).


It’s not quite clear on the pictures, but it is supposed to be a half-turn staircase and no landing staircase. A landing staircase doesn’t work, that’s clear.


The signs seem to be increasing that this is also not the optimal design. :-(
I have no problem with the children’s rooms, but I already pointed out the arrangement of living room and study as the negative point in the starting position.


Our wardrobe with sliding doors is exactly 60 cm, but thanks for this tip. I will plan a bit more clearance.


I would store bedding in the respective room, in one of the upper cupboard compartments that one can only reach with a chair anyway.


To integrate the PC area into the living area but still make it separable. That’s what it should do.


Vacuum cleaner, broom, cleaning supplies, drinks, and definitely some food in stock (cans, beans, rice, pasta, ...).


Drawn incorrectly as I said, should be a half-turn staircase.


Finished floor height 2.70 m? What does that mean? Clear room height 2.70 m? Finished floor top is 0.00 m according to the development plan. :)


About 230,000 EUR for the house with slab and about 40,000 EUR extra for the basement. Then 13,000 EUR for controlled ventilation, 3,000 EUR for electric shutters, and whatever extras we still want. It will be about 300,000 EUR here in East Germany.
 

Otus11

2016-06-26 13:13:48
  • #5
Dispose of cellar excavation, new filling sand for workspace, paint cellar, paint everything, floor coverings, terrace, etc. In short: additional costs..... Never ever for everything starting with a 3....;):)

Yes, I meant 2.7 m ceiling height.

I already understood the W-stairs. With that amount of space, they really don't have to be there, but a comfortable staircase should be part of the planning along with the kitchen (location) exit.

I don't like the hip roof, but that's subjective. From the outside, it also lacks punch for me. Why not a gable roof and partly hide some utility rooms, partly open up to the ridge?

Suggestion for googling: Bub Architects, Residential House Blankenese, beautiful living. But you don't like architects anyway.
 

Barossi

2016-06-26 14:11:35
  • #6


Morning,
once again: WHY DON'T YOU ASK SOMEONE EXPERT?

Of course, you can also waste (life) years with amateur designs..........
 

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