Feedback on single-family house floor plan, 222 sqm desired

  • Erstellt am 2021-06-06 22:25:32

hanghaus2000

2021-06-07 14:06:21
  • #1
I won't say anything about the floor plans for now.

Why no slope? Retaining walls are drawn on the border? Are there sections from the architect?

What is the architect's name?

Without a development plan, height information of the terrain, I also cannot make any statement about the property. Photos and an excerpt from the Geoportal are quite helpful.
 

hanghaus2000

2021-06-07 14:46:05
  • #2
In my opinion, the house is way too big for the small plot. The floor area ratio of 0.4 is not being adhered to.

Sure, you can get an exemption for everything. But the floor area ratio was not invented and defined for nothing.

Where is actually north?

The entrance is right next to the stairs. ;)

I also get the impression that a part was inserted into a standard design. Not for nothing are the walls not drawn equally.
 

GeradeSchräg

2021-06-07 15:01:12
  • #3
Already everything a bit 70s.

Outside and inside, IMHO, do not match. The living area of >200m² doesn’t really seem like that. There are quite a few things I would change...

First of all, I would try to open up the entire living/dining/cooking area.

Remove the kitchen wall at the bottom of the plan by the fireplace. Remove the door from the kitchen to the entrance area. Extend the kitchen unit on the left side of the plan. Possibly shorten the bay window of the dining room but extend it downward on the plan and rotate the dining table.

At least shorten the wall between the cloakroom and the hallway so that the house gets a generous entrance area.

Have the wall on the left side of the living room end flush with the study.



The roof shape results from the remaining cubature of the house. If you want a completely symmetrical roof, then everything underneath should be symmetrical as well. The only thing you might be able to do here without changing the cubature would be to make the roof large enough to cover all the recesses. I can't tell you what that would look like or whether it would be sensible, but then the roof would be symmetrical.


If the place is too big anyway, then the only thing that helps is going back to the drawing board.
 

hampshire

2021-06-07 15:26:29
  • #4
First impression: What a big house on a relatively small plot. I wonder if it will be approved like this. But surely you have already clarified that.
Second impression: Surprisingly many bottlenecks in 220 sqm.
Third impression: Many quirky details - and unlike my previous commenters, I’m somewhat fond of them - if the builders have considered what that means in everyday life.


    [*]Staircase directly next to the entrance - consequence: potentially you carry more "street" into the upper floor than with a different positioning. It was like that in my childhood home (built 1970), nobody minded. It wouldn’t bother me either.
    [*]Parallel corridor / partition wall in the hallway - consequence: a lot of space needed for circulation areas increases construction costs. For a lively family, the cloakroom area is tight and people get in each other’s way. Extended walking distances to the jacket from the upper living area, very shallow closet depth - how do you hang all the clothes for a family of five there? Still, I find the idea nice because you can put a pretty dresser in the hallway, for example - who knows, maybe the property already exists and just needs a place. I could live with that, except for the limited storage for jackets, shoes, umbrellas...
    [*]Work area and walking path cross in the kitchen - consequence: you get in each other’s way, cooking and baking together becomes more like “Tetris” than it ought to be in such a large house. I wouldn’t accept that compromise.
    [*]Massive head wall in the dining area - consequence: you hardly see the (small) garden and only look at paved areas. Reminds me of big city penthouse feeling, not my thing.
    [*]Large space between garage and house - consequence: increased building costs - especially if this becomes part of the thermal envelope. I can imagine many things that could make the space desirable. Unfortunately too small for a snooker table. ;)
    [*]Utility room behind the dressing room - consequence: daily work paths lead through a rather private “barefoot area.” I would accept that in a historic building but would never plan it myself that way.
    [*]2 terraces - I think that’s good for different weather conditions and separate areas when the kids are older and want to do their own thing inside and outside.
    [*]Despite large footprint rather small rooms upstairs - it’s a matter of taste, I don’t like it.
    [*]Roof shape - I find it successful, probably a bit more expensive. Photovoltaics on this roof is wonderfully possible - using east, west, and south exposure. The area could be better used with solar tiles than with standard panels, but that doesn’t make it cheaper, nor ugly. (Bet that the usual suspects will stone me for this again...)
    [*]Large living area with anticipated little light - if you like that
    [*]Very much sealed area in relation to very little garden. I find that neither nice nor up-to-date - if the municipality allows it...
    [*]Split unit exposed to the street - perfectly suited for youth pranks and bad drivers.

I do not want to accept the criticism of the architect, since we don’t know the agreements. On the one hand we complain here about architects who want to realize themselves with the money of their clients, on the other hand we complain about those who let themselves be so guided by their clients’ wishes that some aspects become more expensive or impractical than necessary. So which one now?

Under the given circumstances, I would reject the design for my life - but I am not the standard. I can imagine families to whom it fits perfectly - and then it is right like that.
 

*Sterntaler*

2021-06-07 15:46:44
  • #5


The criticism addressed is understandable. But sometimes you might get stuck on things and no longer see the disadvantages.
Yes, you really have a good nose for this or speak from experience. It was indeed the case that we went to the architect with quite specific ideas… I’d be interested to hear how you proceeded? Did you simply start from scratch again with the same construction company?
After all the comments, we now feel very uncomfortable implementing this plan as is. And even though starting over would be a pretty drastic step, it might be better than stubbornly sticking to the plan and regretting it later when you live in it. Or we might refine the current floor plan again…
What is definitely important to us:
- 3 children’s rooms
- open or semi-open living/dining area
- passage from the garage to the house
- pantry next to the kitchen
- guest WC with shower
- a room on the ground floor that can be converted into a bedroom in old age
- room for bicycles, garden stuff, and storage options (we do not want a cellar)
Maybe someone has had similar criteria and found a different implementation? (At least for the ground floor area). They are very welcome to post their floor plan.
 

Myrna_Loy

2021-06-07 15:54:50
  • #6
The criteria apply to about 80% of those wanting to build here - there are countless example floor plans. They all basically look the same. ;)
 

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