Estimating renovation costs of a single-family house from 1965

  • Erstellt am 2022-01-10 13:30:59

11ant

2022-01-10 16:30:55
  • #1
The pictures now suggest that the wall structure is somewhat two-layered, but without an air gap.
 

Grundaus

2022-01-11 14:44:47
  • #2
Where is the house located, the prices are too low for southern Germany and other major cities
 

apokolok

2022-01-11 18:03:17
  • #3
Looks like Lower Saxony.
The numbers add up, it's still significantly cheaper than in the remote regions.
Normally it's double-shell, then you can blow something in and save on external facade insulation.
Breakthroughs shouldn't be a problem, neither the swimming pool wall nor the kitchen wall seem to bear any load as far as I can tell.
Overall, I really don't find the house bad, it has a lot of potential.
For the swimming pool room, I would also make an opening, but make it closable again with a sliding door.
You could make a cozy TV room, then in the large dining/living room you only have a nice big table and no ugly TV standing there.
 

Proeter

2022-01-11 19:20:44
  • #4
Hi Leschaf,

here are my rough estimates (from various renovation calculations and offers) compared to your rough estimates:


Fits, in my opinion even including switches and one or the other additional socket.

Remove floor, install underfloor heating, new screed I would have estimated at 100 €/m²; in another thread recently someone said they did it for 80 €. So for you about 15 K€

I would have thought cheaper. But I never got an offer for planks. Please check the combination of planks + underfloor heating. That could be tight due to wood's poor thermal conductivity. Even with parquet and underfloor heating with low flow temperature, the so-called engineered parquet is sometimes recommended, which only has about a 3 mm real wood layer.

Fits.

Fits, if no frills.

Someone here did that recently:

Fits, if no frills.

If you want to commit architectural sins and just install ETICS with ugly white plaster, then you’ll probably get by with about 20 K€. But hopefully something remains for a nicer and lower-maintenance façade. Better budget 30 K€.

Fits.

I never got an offer for that. Booked under "petty cash". Maybe the rude awakening will come eventually.

Better a heat pump, 15 K€.

Careful: You may postpone this task for max. 2 years because of the insulation obligation on ownership change. Better do it right away. Price fits.

What about the following items?
- New water pipes? (7 K€)
- New heating pipes? (5 K€)
- Moving walls?
- Basement waterproofing? External waterproofing including earthworks and perimeter insulation approx. 40–50 K€. That could be important because you might have earth-contact living spaces in the basement level. And also the street-side basement rooms are within the thermal envelope, as far as one can tell from the floor plans.
 

BackSteinGotik

2022-01-11 23:08:02
  • #5
What would be a sensible solution for an existing brick facade like this? Besides the potential injection of insulation material?
 

11ant

2022-01-11 23:25:19
  • #6
In the object of the OP, in my opinion, there is no air gap into which anything could be blown.
 

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