District heating vs air-water heat pump in KfW 40 plus

  • Erstellt am 2016-10-18 14:51:09

RFR

2016-10-25 08:02:51
  • #1
I was not aware of any in 2013/2014 when we were building. I do not know how it looks now.
 

skybiker2000

2016-11-12 11:13:25
  • #2
I have collected the bare numbers - costs.

District heating vs. KfW 40 plus (Only with a KfW 40 plus house can I be exempted from the connection obligation - district heating)

District heating:
District heating connection - €8,948.80
Hot water storage tank - €1,000
Connection costs "heating" - €3,000
Total: €13,900.80

The switch from KfW 55 to KfW 40 plus (prefabricated house with basement)
+ Air-water heat pump
+ Additional insulation basement 14 cm -> 16 cm
+ Insulation under the floor slab
+ Connection of all basement rooms to the ventilation system
+ Photovoltaic system
+ Battery storage
+ Better insulation of exterior walls
Total: €47,659.00
less €10,000 repayment grant (difference between KfW 55 and KfW 40 plus)
Total: €37,659

Difference: €23,758.2

Can I rationalize this for myself?

The additional costs are certainly considerable. I would have to save €100 per month for it to pay off in 20 years. The battery storage probably will not last that long. Maintenance and defective parts must of course also be taken into account.

Maintenance and replacement of defective parts would at least be included with district heating.

Do you have an opinion on this?

Thanks!

Best regards
Björn
 

Alex85

2016-11-12 12:21:50
  • #3


Nope.
The calculation is not entirely complete, for example, the VAT for photovoltaic and storage will still be refunded (provided there are separate invoices for this and it is not included in the total house construction cost), but in KFW 40 the heating load also decreases, which results in lower consumption, possibly requires a smaller heat generator (probably not in your example), and with a planned ground-source heat pump the drilling depth is reduced... on the other hand, there are expenses for operating the photovoltaic system (tax issues, maintenance, risk, but also income from feed-in tariffs or savings through self-consumption). Whether the photovoltaic system is correctly dimensioned to match the storage is also questionable. There is a lot of nonsense being done in that regard too.

I think you don’t even need to make this kind of calculation with general contractors/prime contractors because the factor "fluffing up" and/or "I don’t want/can’t" destroys any chance of profitability. Ultimately, you usually don’t have control over the individual components. It might be different when building with an architect, but that’s just my feeling.

One should ask who got cozy with whom to anchor this district heating crap there. That really rubs me the wrong way. But on paper, it’s certainly especially "green".
 

Legurit

2016-11-12 13:28:09
  • #4
I would connect the basement to the [Kontrollierte-Wohnraumlüftung] anyway.
 

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