Confront or better stay away?

Thanks for the info.

Putting the financing aside for now (here I know what I have to work on before I can even seriously "get started"), is it at all possible to put together a house with about 120-150 m² of living space including a basement and garage, mostly "move-in ready," for 200k + approx. 50k ancillary costs (with all costs already included) or is that completely unrealistic?

What are the 50,000 euros in ancillary costs estimated for?

Many aspects flow into the price determination:
- Building requirements (slope location, building ground, etc.)
- Quality standard of building components
- turnkey equipment
- structural or static details
- lavish planning or economical concept
- own contracting and supervision of trades
- from a single source via a general contractor

A house with basement and garage for 200,000 € is quite tight.
Does it have to be a basement, or could it also be a ground-level utility room directly attached to the building?
Regarding the garage - a simple precast concrete garage is available for about 5,000 euros, but of course a stable foundation must still be made.

Regards

T.H.

Hello back Andi,

that pretty much covers my knowledge of the Bavarian language


Does the plot have a slope? What is meant by folding roof?

Best regards

no slope as far as I have been able to find out so far.
Folding roof = gable roof, sorry my brain is melting slowly with all these terms

What are the 50,000 euro additional costs estimated for?

Notaries, fees ... everything that comes up besides land and house costs ... including a kitchen and possibly a small used car for the lady.

Many aspects go into price determination:
- requirements of the development (slope, building ground, etc.)
- quality standard of the building components
- turnkey equipment
- structural or static details
- lavish planning or economical concept
- own awarding and supervision of the trades
- all from one source via a general contractor

A house with a basement and garage for 200,000 € is quite tight.
Does it have to be a basement, or can it also be a ground-level utility room directly attached to the building?

Basement is a must, yes. Garage can be done later if necessary or in an affordable prefabricated form.

Regarding garage – a simple precast concrete garage costs about 5,000 euros, of course a stable foundation must still be made.

Regards

Thomas Heufers

Otherwise, a "prefab basement" from Weberhaus caught my eye ... is that any good or is it similarly expensive as a conventional one?

I’m also unsure about the type of construction. A colleague has advised me against prefab houses (loudly). How should I imagine the price differences between the different construction types?

Thanks for all the answers so far!
God bless
Andi

Otherwise, a "prefabricated basement" from Weberhaus caught my eye... is that any good or is it about as expensive as a conventional one anyway?

Hello Andi!

A prefabricated basement is made from precast concrete elements, which are poured with concrete on site after assembly. The counterpart is the masonry basement. Prefabricated basements and masonry basements can be produced with the same quality and stability if executed properly. In hillside locations, concrete constructions are a required alternative for structural reasons to bear the hillside load. Important for the basement are waterproof connections on the surface and at the joints to ensure waterproofing in case of any settling or shifting of the basement in the future. Also, when building a basement, one should pay attention to a reputable company; references and customer contacts should be obtained.

I’m also unsure about the construction method. A colleague has advised against prefabricated houses (aloud). How should I imagine the price differences between the different building types?

We ourselves have been living since 2004 in a prefabricated house built in diffusion-open and highly insulated timber construction. I cannot confirm your colleague’s impression. We are completely satisfied and happy about the very low energy consumption of our KfW 40 energy-saving house in Detmold with about 400 - 450 euros per year for hot water, heating, and ventilation. We have published a daily consumption statistic online. If you send me a message, I will gladly provide you with the link.

Regards
T.H.

Hello Andi,

no slope as far as I could find out so far. Folding roof = gable roof, sorry, brain freeze with all these terms ;)

Oh, you are in good company; just yesterday a real estate agent told me about a "2 3/4" storey house :(

is it even possible to put together a roughly 120-150 m² living space house including basement and garage mostly "move-in ready" for 200k + approx. 50k additional costs (already including all costs incurred) or is that completely unrealistic?

Yes, it is unrealistic, at least in the Rhineland ... Bavaria is, as far as I know, even a bit more expensive :)

For example, 140 sqm with basement as a KfW 70 efficiency house and turnkey comes to EUR 220k, prefabricated garage 3 x 9 including tool room at EUR 8.5k, typical additional construction costs at EUR 30-35k plus buffer for extras.

130 sqm with basement as a KfW 70 efficiency house and turnkey comes to EUR 205k, prefabricated garage 3 x 9 including tool room at EUR 8.5k, typical additional construction costs at EUR 30-35k plus buffer for extras.

Within your desired budget fits 110 sqm with basement as a KfW 70 efficiency house and turnkey EUR 187k, prefabricated garage 3 x 9 including tool room at EUR 8.5k, typical additional construction costs at EUR 30-35k plus buffer for extras.

As mentioned, in the Rhineland :D

Kind regards

Hello Andi,


Oh, you are in good company; just yesterday a real estate agent told me about a "2 3/4" story house :(


Yes, it's illusory, at least in the Rhineland ... Bavaria is, as far as I know, even a bit more expensive :)

For example, 140 sqm with basement as a KfW 70 efficiency house and turnkey comes to EUR 220k, prefabricated garage 3 x 9 including tool room at EUR 8.5k, typical incidental construction costs at EUR 30-35k plus a buffer for extras.

130 sqm with basement as a KfW 70 efficiency house and turnkey comes to EUR 205k, prefabricated garage 3 x 9 including tool room at EUR 8.5k, typical incidental construction costs at EUR 30-35k plus a buffer for extras.

Within your desired budget fits 110 sqm with basement as a KfW 70 efficiency house and turnkey EUR 187k, prefabricated garage 3 x 9 including tool room at EUR 8.5k, typical incidental construction costs at EUR 30-35k plus a buffer for extras.

As written, in the Rhineland :D

Best regards

Thanks! So the whole thing is probably more like "hands off" ;)
Increasing the budget to 250k (house + basement + simplest garage) would still be conceivable (+ 50k buffer) ... but even that seems relatively difficult ...

Hello,

... but even that seems to be quite difficult ...

Building a house means (almost) always making compromises; the question is where and how and how creative the people around you are :D

Best regards