Berlin front structure for securing the excavation pit

  • Erstellt am 2023-09-21 10:54:42

11ant

2023-09-26 18:48:36
  • #1
For that one side, yes, albeit moderately. Pun intended: overall, it remains a half measure. What does the site manager do professionally?
 

ypg

2023-09-26 19:09:14
  • #2



Was there already a soil report before? Was one requested by the general contractor before the demolition?
How did it go for the neighbor? Did he have one? Was it communicated?

Did the basement have to be removed? Could it not have been left standing?

In my humble opinion, the GC (general contractor) or the general contracting company should have known beforehand what they were about to build on. However, a soil report is the owner's obligation to provide.
You are the owners, right? Or did you buy the house including the plot from the developer?
The 8 months will be very tight. Do not make the mistake out of self-interest and put pressure - do not terminate the apartment yet.
 

hanghaus2023

2023-09-26 19:19:23
  • #3
I only see information from the soil survey here. No planned excavation pit. No shoring (sheet piling) planned either.


Why? It should be clear to everyone that a guarantee does not solve the problem. It should also be clear to your site manager and you by now that the unshored excavation pit can and will affect the street. The costs of the remediation are borne by the party responsible.

It would have helped if the problem had been solved quickly here.
 

Nida35a

2023-09-26 20:36:17
  • #4

This is a 2-story house on a slab foundation, the slab is already suspended in the area of the foil stuffed underneath.
The exterior walls stand on it and load the slab in bending.
There is imminent danger, risk of the house collapsing :eek:
 

11ant

2023-09-26 20:41:41
  • #5
My summary of what I understood is five letters long: "nothing" (and even then I am not entirely sure).

The original poster and his building partner have thus received a building permit here, which I already do not understand: the cadastral excerpt shows the neighboring house no. 18 on 367/21 and the predecessor building on the original poster's property in a location that would suggest a boundary setback from the previous property owner. So I do not even follow the simple boundary distance to the neighbor here. Then I read about a basement of the existing building, which I do not recall being mentioned in the original poster’s previous thread - thus for me unexpectedly of a deep demolition. Here I see a "construction pit" like for a basement of the semi-detached house: the slope seems to contain a working space that would seem too generously dimensioned to me just for a deep demolition. Not that I had assumed the predecessor building had no basement - but I did for the new building. So I had certainly expected a deep demolition instead of just filling the existing basement, which of course would have been secured with sheet piling or similar to prevent an unwanted formation of a working space between the deep demolition and the neighbor’s boundary. I am surprised that I, as a building consultant (specialist, but from this perspective a theoretician), am thinking further here than a building contractor (for whom this should be an ingrained daily practice). Furthermore, I am then surprised that this "construction pit" might actually be a construction pit (for the new basement), because otherwise it could and should have been immediately / virtually simultaneously filled and compacted.

I therefore assume a planning unfortunately without an architect: i.e. it is apparently that a general contractor was engaged who then planned the still-built property virtually like a plane, detached from reality. If I were at the building authority, I would at least have conditioned the building permit on the submission of a demolition schedule. This looks to me like such a textbook farce that I harbor an initial suspicion that the mayor of might have found a new field of activity here. Ceterum censeo, the tax rate on thoughtlessness urgently needs to be increased.
 

Bayernbors

2023-09-27 10:26:10
  • #6
I don’t think this was done. I asked the architect and GC once at the beginning, but the architect said it was not necessary at that time, and I failed to check again :(. Yes, it is at a different location and has a different size. Yes From other threads I understood that 8 months are normal if the work starts under good weather conditions. I was mainly worried that it might be too late to start the work because winter is coming. I am not sure when I should start counting the 8 months. Yes, unfortunately I don’t have a plan for the excavation pit. The retaining structure is also not planned yet. I am still waiting for that to be done. Sorry, that’s my mistake. I didn’t understand why “guarantee” was mentioned here, then I realized that I mistakenly used it in my first post while I meant “retaining structure” – that is the Berlin sheet piling :rolleyes: I am not sure how high the load is here since it is a very old prefab house, but it definitely seems dangerous. I also reported this problem to the GC, but it’s strange that this neighbor has not complained yet! The plan was to complete the excavation pit together with the demolition of the old house with basement without waiting time. Due to poor planning (or completely missing planning), it became apparent during execution that some additional measures had to be taken that were not planned, so the excavation was stopped in the middle of the work.
 

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