Attic not fully registered as living space - NRW

  • Erstellt am 2020-05-17 10:40:32

SebastianBULLI

2020-05-17 15:59:38
  • #1
Thank you very much for your constructive advice!
According to your contributions, here are a few remarks:


I am not an expert... But I know, for example, that insurance companies sometimes look very closely when you want something from them. Suppose something stupid happens to me there and I want the insurance to handle it. Can't they then say "But otherwise you’re fine? Why are you sleeping in the attic?"


Exactly - according to the building authority, the "attic room" is simply not living space... Still, it seems exaggerated to me to enlarge windows or dormers just because of this single room, or to engage an architect to submit a building application.
Regarding the P.S.: Hehe yes... Maybe I would then have to rent the apartment without a bathroom! But – now it’s getting subtle – wouldn’t the landlord be allowed to use the "attic room" as a storage room if I clearly regulate that in the rental agreement?


I have already been to the building authority. That’s where the terms I use here come from. I am only asking further here because I’m looking for "loopholes." They just say "Engage an architect, submit a building application. Probably windows too small. And possibly insufficient soundproofing and thermal insulation." What bothers me about this is the lack of proportionality. Except for this #!*$ "attic room," the rooms are already declared as living spaces!


OK, so you see the private use as living spaces by us (only we live in the house) as unproblematic? That would be a good start...
 

nordanney

2020-05-17 16:37:21
  • #2
But absolutely unproblematic! I would leave renting out with all the open flanks alone.
 

Pinky0301

2020-05-17 16:44:35
  • #3
As far as I know, the rule in such cases is: rented as seen. This means the tenant cannot make any claims if they later find out that the apartment is not an official living space. Problems only arise if the building authority prohibits the use, because then the landlord owes the tenant an apartment that he cannot provide.
 

Grolsch30

2020-05-17 16:45:01
  • #4
Hello,

we have also converted our 1.5-story house. The upper floor was divided into a master bedroom and one half as an attic. When we bought the house, we converted the attic and made 2 children's bedrooms out of it (each 25 sqm).

I also went to the building authority and was told that I do not need a building permit, but I did not receive anything in writing!
 

nordanney

2020-05-17 17:46:03
  • #5
That is unfortunately not correct. The living area is then, for example, 0 sqm and the tenant can reduce the rent to 0. Not to mention claims for damages.
 

Pinky0301

2020-05-17 18:02:13
  • #6
Why should the tenant be allowed to reduce the rent? He still receives what he rented.
 

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