Melville
2016-04-29 11:27:00
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Hello everyone,
and in several respects at once, since I am quite new to the forum.
I am in the process of converting a former barn building (small windows out, floor-to-ceiling windows in; gates on the upper floor out, also windows in instead, reroofing and insulating the roof, making a breakthrough for a door). For this, I have now received a fee offer from the architect:
- Preparing the building application with description and construction figures, as well as the property map for 1,180 EUR net I accept
- plus 5% incidental costs (for copies, plotting, phone calls, etc.) for 196.65 EUR net I find already quite a lot, but okay, maybe they print on gold paper...
what really makes me think is the item
Transfer to CAD
3 floor plans, section and elevations
approx. 24 hours of a technical employee
approx. 8 hours of an architect
I am very IT-savvy and also quite familiar with software. If I enter the floor plans of the building into one of the common home builder programs from bhv&Co, it takes me about 30-60 minutes and I have to search for the necessary functions. For a technical employee, I assume that he knows the software – presumably then a bit more data will be stored than I do in the hobby program. Therefore, generously estimating 4 hours (200 sqm floor area; 2 floors, of which only the upper floor is relevant, with 2 rectangular large rooms and a staircase from below).
Why are 32 hours needed for that???
I am a project manager and often purchase external expertise. Fundamentally, I am a big fan of giving specialists who understand their craft good money for good performance. I come from consulting myself and we also put sufficient buffers of between 50 and 100% in our offers – but this here seems to me to be more than 800% buffer. Maybe also because it’s just not clear to me what all has to be done in the 32 hours. Could someone please explain that to me?
Thanks and regards,
Melville
and in several respects at once, since I am quite new to the forum.
I am in the process of converting a former barn building (small windows out, floor-to-ceiling windows in; gates on the upper floor out, also windows in instead, reroofing and insulating the roof, making a breakthrough for a door). For this, I have now received a fee offer from the architect:
- Preparing the building application with description and construction figures, as well as the property map for 1,180 EUR net I accept
- plus 5% incidental costs (for copies, plotting, phone calls, etc.) for 196.65 EUR net I find already quite a lot, but okay, maybe they print on gold paper...
what really makes me think is the item
Transfer to CAD
3 floor plans, section and elevations
approx. 24 hours of a technical employee
approx. 8 hours of an architect
I am very IT-savvy and also quite familiar with software. If I enter the floor plans of the building into one of the common home builder programs from bhv&Co, it takes me about 30-60 minutes and I have to search for the necessary functions. For a technical employee, I assume that he knows the software – presumably then a bit more data will be stored than I do in the hobby program. Therefore, generously estimating 4 hours (200 sqm floor area; 2 floors, of which only the upper floor is relevant, with 2 rectangular large rooms and a staircase from below).
Why are 32 hours needed for that???
I am a project manager and often purchase external expertise. Fundamentally, I am a big fan of giving specialists who understand their craft good money for good performance. I come from consulting myself and we also put sufficient buffers of between 50 and 100% in our offers – but this here seems to me to be more than 800% buffer. Maybe also because it’s just not clear to me what all has to be done in the 32 hours. Could someone please explain that to me?
Thanks and regards,
Melville