And another "city villa"

  • Erstellt am 2019-02-15 15:31:20

Dschan1986

2019-02-16 00:43:42
  • #1


Unfortunately, I did not understand your question. In my initial post, I already clumsily entered the house into the floor plan (red box in the last picture).

I will definitely take into account the note about the too shallow wardrobe depth in the dressing room.

If we made the office a little narrower, then we could gain more space in the living area, and maybe the chimney could move a bit more toward the center of the house so that it would not protrude so much. I'll take this into the next appointment as well.

We wanted to compensate for the small wardrobe with another solution underneath the stairs next to it. Maybe also with a closed substructure next to the passage to the utility room.

Regarding the carport: Yes, it is located in the west. But there is still relatively much garden left, which then directly adjoins the covered terrace.

Many thanks overall for the suggestions!
 

11ant

2019-02-16 01:26:11
  • #2
I wanted to study the development plan more closely; only two are available online for Hohenwestedt (52 and 53), and neither matches your plan excerpt. Therefore, I asked where you are building (apparently in another municipality?).
 

kaho674

2019-02-16 11:10:30
  • #3
Another one of those 10x10 nonsense villas with an office and utility room on the ground floor and of course a shower in the guest WC. You immediately wonder why they didn’t also separate a pantry and a guest room somewhere.

I hope for your sake, you carefully deal with the dimensions and place realistic furniture in your lilliputian house. Tape measure on the floor and build imaginary walls and stairs. Then try to get four people through this bottleneck "entrance" and hang all your coats in that tiny 80cm cupboard from the 80s while simultaneously taking off your shoes and then put them—well, where exactly? Under the stairs is already the door to the utility room and eventually the space under the stairs runs out, because there are the stairs. There are steps somewhere, after all.

Next, I would test the shower in the guest WC. 2.25m for everything: toilet, sink, and shower. Somehow you still have to be able to sit on the toilet—what actually remains at the back for showering? 80? Looks more like 70. Tiles still need to go on the wall... practically a wellness temple.

The fireplace senselessly shrinks your living room. Don’t be fooled by the 24 (square meters). Due to the fireplace, effective dimensions left are about 3.50m x 3.90m for the cozy corner. That’s okay, but you’re under 14m². True freedom looks different.

All 78cm doors upstairs. These are dwarf doors that you resort to out of desperation when space is tight. You can use something like that once in a guest WC. But everywhere and constantly in living rooms? Lilliput land, indeed.

The whole dressing room issue has been explained enough already. The unnecessarily large bathroom too.

Sorry, but the lack of space, especially in the entrance area, cannot be compensated by the Tuscan style and the pretty exterior (a matter of taste). A house must first work, then you can choose the color of the roof tiles. Not the other way around.
 

ypg

2019-02-16 12:18:10
  • #4
I can only understand this discussion on the topic of "another city villa" and as a longer silent reader in such a way that one is somehow so blinded by the idea of "yippee, we're building a Tuscan villa" combined with the 3D model that one loses sight of all reality (dimensions that do not work, but are still drawn in).

And already the pushing back and forth of walls begins, yet the house does not get any bigger.
In the living area: the 24 sqm refers to everything on the left side of the virtual wall.
21 sqm for dining and cooking with an island is bold and rather a sneaky trick.
How long is the room?
So: look very closely and draw in proper furniture.
The fireplace is pure space waste and takes away any openness from the room.
Once a proper couch is placed there, the left side of the plan will burst, on the right you have to twist around the dining table. Everything bursts, in the middle stands the fireplace, which is also the back wall of the TV...
The only thing that seems spacious is the veranda, but it only has 2.50 m under the roof? That is not enough for a seating area with a table. Our terrace is 5 meters deep... it doesn’t have to be, but 4 meters should be for use.
And you can only get to the terrace here through a 1 meter wide door. The other doors can’t be used due to lack of space.



There is no room left, except for a pet with maximum knee height.
You already have a door there.



For me, it’s a no-go to close off the house to the western sun. The garden is overrated here. You live in the house anyway. There is plenty of garden anyway. Nevertheless, the fleet separates garden and house here... so there is little unity between the two.
In summer the sun shines on the west side from 3 pm onwards.

Don’t you want to enjoy your garden from inside at all?
Maybe think about it reflected: bathroom in the west and children’s room in the east is very questionable.

That the doors upstairs also only have a width of 78 cm is a good hint from Katja.
Overall actually a big sneaky trick of a house.
But that might also be the fault of the draftsman or the general contractor à la “You get everything you want. It all works, it all fits.”
 

11ant

2019-02-16 16:20:59
  • #5
Well, if you’re being that mean, I’ll even quote myself again (from the green forum about StanSch):

There are two "classic" general running gags in ground floor layouts of substitute villas on slab foundations under one hundred square meters: 1. Giving a leftover space opposite the heating room, which as a children’s room is first a bit too small and second too far from the master bedroom, the funny name "Guest / Office" in the plan; 2. Selling the space for the cellar stairs in the layout "cellar omitted" variant as a clever storage room – if located next to the kitchen, as a "pantry."

What "works" here is only trickery: give a shoebox with a flat roof in Bauhaus style three French balconies copied & pasted into the upper floor on the garden side and put a bridal gown white A6 under the carport in the perspective computer drawing of the exterior views (new German: "Dreideh"): and Otto Average Dumbass already twitches for the signing pen. Pavlovian reflex 21st Century Edition *prayforbrain*

How they come up with the special size 78 doors is unclear to me – probably to make other dimensions seem relatively larger (?)
 

Dschan1986

2019-02-16 18:14:51
  • #6


The plot is in a neighboring municipality of Hohenwestedt. However, the development plan is not available online. We still received it in classic hardcopy. ;)

Why the doors were dimensioned small, I also cannot say. But I haven't come across it yet.

Basically, thanks for the feedback.

We'll see if we can get the office into the upper floor. There are still leftover square meters because of the oversized bathroom. On the ground floor, we try to separate the living and dining areas as a result. That probably makes more sense, especially since the office is used less frequently than all the other rooms anyway.
 

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