3-FH planned without basement, your feedback on my floor plan

Well, if the question of financing is so unimportant, then you have enough money to find an architect or draftsman who will put together some designs for you. But he will probably also ask for the money first. No one lifts a pencil here before that, because it’s pointless.

I never said that, I just wanted to know what you think of the draft, I have already learned something useful now.

Gutting is not emptying
Doors, windows, insulation, electrical cables out, wood and ceiling paneling off

The offer is extremely cheap. Do you have comparable offers?

Yep... some were also in that range... the most expensive was 70k :-)

Ps: yes, including disposal of doors, windows etc.

I might make myself very unpopular here, but why does a 5-person family not build a correspondingly smaller house, which:

1. belongs to oneself, no stress with tenants and missing rental income, etc.

2. where the installment can be managed as a single earner???

There are sizes for single-family houses that also fit 3 children...

Or is that not possible because of the "commercial space argument"...???

I don't quite understand the way of thinking and these dimensions, sorry...

how it exactly looks legally, I can't say for sure

And then you are already planning the floor plans without knowing if you are even allowed to build a purely residential house? What exactly happened with the building regulations?

The preliminary building inquiry was already positive.

What was asked there? Only the demolition?

Then asked at the building authority

Who? You? The architect? Orally? Preliminary building inquiry?

the idea was rejected.

By whom? Orally? Rejection notice? Comment from your architect about that?

the building authority has concerns if the house is built further back

Clear. To the south there is also a building line on which one must build and which you do not comply with in either design. If you want to step back, you need an exemption, which the neighbors cannot grant you since it is not a neighbor-protecting provision. Here

Reason: because commercial area

you also give a second reason, which is even more important because it calls the entire concept into question and not just the location of the new building on the plot. One should rather consider building a commercial unit on the ground floor with a long-term lease instead of two rental apartments.

Please provide the information of the development plan (generous excerpt of the graphic part and textual stipulations). Then we can take a closer look.

And then you are already planning the floor plans without even knowing if you are allowed to build a purely residential house at all? What exactly happened in terms of building regulations?

What was requested? Just the demolition?

Who? You? The architect? Orally? Preliminary building request?

From whom? Orally? Rejection notice? Comment from your architect about that?

Sure. There is also a building line to the south, on which building must be done, and which you do not comply with in either design. If you want to set back, you need a waiver, which your neighbors cannot grant because it is not a neighbor-protecting provision. Here

you also mention a second reason, which is even more important because it questions the entire concept and not only the location of the new building on the property. One should rather consider building a commercial unit on the ground floor with a long-term lease instead of two rental apartments.

Please provide the information from the development plan (generous excerpt of the drawing part and textual provisions). Then we can see further.

- The preliminary building request included the following: a property with 3 residential units at the place where the old building currently stands. So first the demolition and then the new building, and a purely residential house can be built there, I was informed in writing.

- The preliminary building request was previously in writing, I had not yet consulted an architect.

- The rejection for the new building location in the rear area was communicated to us orally or directly to the architect. He said they are worried that someone from the neighborhood could sue, so I wanted to talk to the neighbors again.
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It may be that I am making myself very unpopular here, but why with a family of 5 does one not build a correspondingly smaller house that:

1. belongs to oneself, no stress with tenants and missing rental income, etc.

2. where the installments as a single earner can be managed???

There are sizes for single-family houses that also fit for 3 children...

Or is this not possible because of the "commercial space argument"...???

I don't quite understand the way of thinking and these dimensions, sorry...

Hi, no, I have no problem if you criticize that. 1) I spoke with a few financial advisors... it was confirmed by several that a pure single-family house is pure luxury, with a rental property not everything would be on my shoulders. I had also thought about later, if the children should not stay, then we could take a smaller apartment, for a few years we could still manage stairs or we could maybe talk to the architect whether a duplex might also make sense :)

2) I probably should have mentioned, my wife works part-time (permanent contract) and I am sure that in a few years she could become self-employed with her cooking channel. She is already earning income from it.

3) I could also just have a single-family house built

If additional income is to be expected, I would definitely plan a single-family house, if possible according to the requirements and development plan.

If rental income is absolutely necessary, location doesn't matter, a semi-detached house sounds better to me.

But that's just my personal feeling.

I talked to our architect about it.....

We can still change our minds anytime, but he listed the disadvantages for us:

- you need 2 house entrances, therefore (more than now) rentable living space is lost and you get only one (large) apartment on each of 2 floors, so only 2 residential units on 2 floors (instead of 3 residential units as above). (I have to ask again here, it may be that there is a misunderstanding)
- It is difficult to reduce the size of an apartment, etc.,

whereas with a central staircase you are much more flexible in the access and layout of the apartments

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My/our thought: right semi-detached half, completely for us spread over 2 levels with attic and left half rented out with 2 apartments (ground floor and first floor).

Advantages for us would be:
- a bit more privacy and we could fully use our side if we finished the attic, and in the evening we wouldn’t meet neighbors in the staircase like in the first option; we could then plan 2 children’s rooms instead of 3, since our son could move to the attic.
- and when we are alone and the children have moved out, we would take the smaller left apartment (ground floor) and rent out our large one again.

What do you think?