Which smart lamps are suitable for Matter?

  • Erstellt am 2022-11-15 12:43:18

SaniererNRW123

2022-11-16 13:09:10
  • #1
It depends on how many devices you want to connect. Over 200?
 

sysrun80

2022-11-16 13:12:03
  • #2
From practical experience: I have installed many different manufacturers and protocols/standards. Zigbee, Z-Z-Wave, WLAN, wired. Lamps, buttons, switches, smart plugs, all mixed up. Shelly, Hue, Osram, Xiaomi, dog, cat, mouse.

The key point: I rely on a server like HomeAssistant to network all possible standards. I like tinkering myself, know the quirks of the individual systems, and am not afraid to invest time in it.

The question is: What kind of person are you? :D

If you want something stable with little tinkering, take, for example, Zigbee and a Hue Bridge. Install the app and off you go.

If you want more flexibility, then check out "Homee" - there you get a small server and can add various modules (e.g., Zigbee, Z-Z-Wave, Enocean). Besides, the whole thing is quite user-friendly.

If you enjoy tinkering and want maximum flexibility, then there is no way around HomeAssistant or ioBroker.

The point is: Time is money - If you want something good that is easy to configure, buy Hue and pay for it. If you feel like reading in a bit and learning - take Shelly, set up your own mini server based on a Raspberry, or check out `Homee.
 

FrankChief

2022-11-16 13:40:53
  • #3
I would like to have a functioning system and combine as few different radio standards as possible

the radio standard I want to use should build a functioning mesh network to avoid connection problems as much as possible
 

sysrun80

2022-11-16 13:44:59
  • #4


Clear statement from me: Then take Zigbee and preferably "Homee" as a base - with that you have buttons, switches, lamps, controllable sockets, and sensors.
For things like roller shutters, however, it becomes difficult again. But: if you rely on "Homee" as a base, you can also easily integrate Shelly (WLAN) again. So the system can grow.

Or play for time and wait to see what develops with Thread/Matter. But that can take years.
 

Mycraft

2022-11-16 13:48:17
  • #5

You don’t have to explain what Matter is and what’s behind it to me. I am fully aware. It’s an attempt to create something like the KNX environment, only with wireless.

Nevertheless, I repeat my question: Why should one do that? Why should one choose a Matter-compatible product if the other one also works?


Not systems at all. Systems are basically short-lived. You have to decide for yourself which standard you follow and where the risk of SPOF is usually the lowest.

Whether you will be happy with Zigbee, Z-Wave, EnOcean, or even Matter, that will only become clear later. None of them is recommendable, because each, besides the advantages, always brings a ton of disadvantages with it. Matter will not be an exception here either.
 

FrankChief

2022-11-16 14:17:31
  • #6
thanks

I will take another look at what I will choose.

I only need the things around the middle of next year (later would also work) but you can just buy the right lamps directly instead of first dumb ones and then swapping them for smart ones

What lamps would you recommend?

Philips Hue? is probably the one with the widest range

Maybe Nanoleaf?

What about WLAN lamps: Wiz (also from Philips or Signify) or Xiaomi Yeelight

Which wireless standard would you go for with lamps, what advantages do Zigbee lamps have and what advantages do WLAN lamps have?



can KNX be retrofitted without laying the bus cable? you somehow hinted at something. but according to my research that doesn’t work properly
 

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