Tips for house construction companies in South Baden-Württemberg

  • Erstellt am 2021-01-23 10:27:49

Construbo

2021-01-24 11:01:23
  • #1

Very helpful information; many thanks for that! Completely correct, as laymen we would never have thought of awarding the trades individually. Rather, our plan is to make use of complete accompaniment/support by a civil engineer/architect! As soon as we have more concrete information, we are also very happy to post the first drafts here.
 

11ant

2021-01-24 13:14:47
  • #2
Would you like to share which parts you "learned the most from"?
 

Jokeep1337

2021-01-24 13:38:27
  • #3
Hello everyone,

thanks for the tips so far. We do not have a plot of land yet and will ideally start with that.

We imagine a multi-generational house with a finished basement, so that we can basically rent out 2 apartments. So did I understand correctly that the plot search service is rather discouraged here?

The basis for the offers were simply project houses, which we then theoretically arranged without a plot of land. For example, at Allkauf Haus we have an offer for exactly such a multi-generational house including a finished basement, with everything included (excluding the plot). I just wonder whether everything is really included, or if we would get seriously annoyed during the construction process because quite a few hidden costs might come on top.

Since the plot and the built house are quite strongly dependent on each other, is it really sensible to look for plots first?

Best regards
 

11ant

2021-01-24 14:36:55
  • #4

This surcharge is a myth and economically nonsense. Here, the general contractor prices in – usually without having any theoretical knowledge of insurance mathematics – his experience as an effect that the client would also have with individual awarding, namely that sometimes you cannot take the cheapest bid because it does not have the appropriate time available, and the desired calculation "we just combine all the cheapest to get the lowest possible total sum" consequently won’t work out. The actual "surcharge" is a premium for the risk of increases in purchase prices during the validity of his price guarantee. And, yes, of course – see below, keyword hourly rates: if, for the aforementioned timing reason, he has to bring a new player into his team, his coordination risk increases. But these are all risks that the client would have with self-awarding as well – the difference is rather only that he sees this already in the offer here, and is not caught off guard by the nasty surprise later.

I can assure you that the fee for the architect's awarding services is usually noticeably exceeded by the tuition of complete beginners. By the way, those who regularly shoot their mouth off the most are precisely those do-it-yourselfers who professionally deal with "something with business administration" – especially Excel full pros whose favorite training courses are negotiation trainings. Experienced contractors read the gaps first. By the way, the architect does not take on any cost risk – apart from his professional liability insurance for careful procedure during the determination – none at all.

This phenomenon mainly affects those clients who, during the boom-related shortage of architects, either reawaken architects from retirement à la pensioner cops (who leave the shopping to their dear spouses and have not known what butter costs in Hamburg since the introduction of the euro) or call a professor back into practice who has only been lecturing in cloud cuckoo land for years. Such things happen less often with architects returning to the profession after a ten-year maternity break, because they often only do planning again at first and hand over after awarding to the site-supervising colleague. At this point, the student assistant comes into play for the professor, who finds outdated tables in the textbooks (and therefore continues to work "mathematically correct" with wrong basics).

Individual awarding is definitely a game of Russian roulette, in which beginners almost always manage to pick a rotten egg. And it’s a cacophony if you do it without the "conductor architect." The biggest wrench in the works is detailed planning, without which you surely run onto a reef called hourly rates like the Amen of the klabautermann – besides, you might as well put out an extra pallet of expanding foam for cheerful self-service. Individual awarding is good – but as self-awarding without detailed planning and relevant experience, a Waterloo as the book says.
 

11ant

2021-01-24 14:58:18
  • #5
This is an unfortunate combination in that it would then result in three apartments, and with a limit of two, quite a few building areas would be excluded from the already sometimes very limited selection. You can rather delete the "rather". Where did these "project houses" come from? Apart from the prairie near Poland (MV/BB) or, to some extent, also the former border zone in Hessian Siberia, nowadays you usually only find plots for sale on which the house fits into the building area without much room for shifting. The basement question is often taken out of your hands because of this. Planning without a plot is concretely and figuratively like the proverbial calculation without the innkeeper. Abstractly, meaning how much space is needed and preferably how the floors are connected, clarification is possible and advisable much earlier. So, a wish list now and floor plans only after finding a plot—unless you are so locally flexible that you can reverse the priorities and search for a plot based on the desired house dimensions. However, this is more difficult in the current market situation.
 

WilderSueden

2021-01-24 18:34:46
  • #6
Without a plot of land, there is no development plan, and without a development plan, you can plan everything that you will later want to throw in the trash. Especially because three-family houses (and that's what we're talking about with you, not a granny flat) are difficult to implement in many development plans. For us, it would probably be possible (no plot ratio), but would it look good? Ideally for something like this would probably be a moderate slope (= light in the basement apartment), a development plan with 2 full floors, generous floor area ratio, and no plot ratio. Best of all, no parking space requirement since with the usual 2 spaces per residential unit, you would have to provide space for 6 cars. Regarding the providers... each provider has its niche and reputation. Some mainly offer shell houses, some in the lower price segment, some in the higher price segment. In Villingen-Schwenningen, you find all kinds of providers who are only comparable in that they make prefabricated houses. And since your project falls outside the usual scope for construction companies (single-family house or semi-detached house), I would also consider hiring an architect once you have a plot. I never spoke of a single contract directly by the client. I would strongly advise against that unless you happen to be a construction manager or similar by profession and only work part-time in your company during the construction period. It was rather about the variants general contractor or contract awarding by a professional. The general contractor naturally charges for their price risk. And why an architect miscalculates is often hard for a layperson to understand. He doesn’t even know that the architect miscalculated.
 

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