Tips for Electrical Installation

  • Erstellt am 2013-11-18 13:02:44

aytex

2013-11-18 15:42:11
  • #1


For the future, that would certainly be interesting and I would definitely want it, but I have heard in advance that even the preparation is supposed to cost a lot of money. and I'm not sure if that is still affordable. Can this be estimated in terms of price?
 

Musketier

2013-11-18 17:09:26
  • #2
I would save myself the USB sockets. When I see how much the sockets cost and think about how much an adapter costs, I would find the money not worth it. In particular, one should consider that the USB standard 3.0 (with different connectors) has been on the market since 2008, USB 3.1 is imminent, and in 4-5 years the next standard will certainly be invented.

What comes to mind on the topic of electricity:
- if lighting for the mirror and the vanity cabinet is also desired, then a connection must also be made under the sink
- a shower toilet would also require an electrical connection
- dimmer
- switchable sockets (e.g., for standby devices)
- motion detectors (e.g., in the hallway)

There was already a thread here in the forum with tips for planning:

https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/elektroplanung-was-zu-beachten-vorgehen-erklaerungen-und-tipps.8485/
 

ypg

2013-11-18 18:15:02
  • #3
So, I think I read that katho self-publishes (or her husband). Otherwise, I would wonder how much you have to pay for such a 150% package and what real benefit I actually get from it.
Do the Wii and the Playstation really each need a power outlet if you don’t use the devices together anyway or only use them 6 times a year?
Do I need a battery of switches on every second wall that I might have to label to tell the switches apart and that I only have to operate 3 times a year anyway?
What good is a motion detector if it puts me in the spotlight?
Lighting for the cabinet under the sink? Do you need that?
USB charging sockets? Never heard of them
Are sockets nice????
I love Christmas lights, but to mount sockets in the window recesses for that? Does everyone have a mood chandelier from the 50s standing around? No, you don’t just illuminate window surfaces (at most the inviting entrance front). Among other reasons, you plan at least one socket on every wall; in room corners, usually one instead of two, where a bed or sofa is supposed to be, left and right...
You can do without the obligatory work socket (for the vacuum cleaner) half the time or relocate it downwards if needed. Usually, the hallway sockets can be used for vacuuming.
Sockets are important where a) media will be placed, b) kitchen appliances will be placed, and standing and reading lamps are needed from the furnishings. There’s no use installing 2 sockets every meter in the kitchen if you only plan a tech corner there. Work sockets in the kitchen don’t have to be massively available, but they do have to be there.
If the bread maker or microwave is supposed to do its service in the utility room, then plan for that in the utility room too. Also include sockets there for a second fridge or chargers for drill and co. Where do phones charge now, and where will they be charged in the future?
Media sockets in every bedroom, possibly one in the guest bath for shaving or blow-drying. If a mirrored cabinet is planned, then there are often 1 or 2 sockets in it too.
Room corners where sideboards or shelves are planned, possibly for a floor or table lamp.
Honestly - I’ve been sitting on my own terraces for 15 years now, and then preferably with mood lighting (candles). Outdoor lighting with a switch-off is planned anyway.
Here come the women’s tips: in the kitchen, switch the indirect lighting (light crown) or work light separately from the overhead light. Dimmer in the living room and over the dining table. Panic switch in the bedroom. Work socket at the kitchen island. For dressing rooms or wardrobes, plan a socket for wardrobe lighting to switch. Nightstand/reading lamps in the bedroom should be switched from the door. Entrance area -> plan window lighting.
It’s well known that men are sometimes pure tech junkies, but you have to pay for all that, not just the devices, but also the wiring...
That’s why I leave the field to the men again now
 

kaho674

2013-11-18 18:41:32
  • #4
Yes and yes. I sometimes wonder about that too, but I also have to include a feeeew things for my husband to play with. Otherwise, he loses interest in house building.
Who even has that and plans it into the house construction?
More than three is too much. At least that's how we planned it. And there are only two sets of three in the whole house. So that's not really a problem.
Maybe you misunderstood something. The motion detectors are for the silent alarm when the alarm system is armed. You can also design it as an outdoor floodlight deterrent alarm system – but that's difficult for the reasons mentioned. Otherwise, they are just off.
Nope
That depends on the manufacturer. No, but if they're not all at eye level and in large quantities, they don't bother you at all, I would say.
 

ypg

2013-11-18 18:59:27
  • #5
Hello kaho... that wasn't all aimed at you either
If I had such a cable guy, I would also have a lot more comfort

But for example, I currently see many cases of 2 light switch panels next to each other... that makes 8!! switches - who needs that???
And I have also read about 8 to 10 sockets behind the TV wall!
As I said: everything has to be paid for or you take out a loan for it. You shouldn't think - the more, the better, but still consider and look at the plan three times
 

Elektro1

2013-11-18 19:20:37
  • #6
Hello Aytex,

first of all:

https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/elektroplanung-was-zu-beachten-vorgehen-erklaerungen-und-tipps.8485/

A refrigerator without an RCD is not allowed, because according to VDE every socket accessible to a layperson must be equipped with an RCD, except for permanently connected devices.

Home automation:
I decided on a Loxone. Costs for me about 2500.
In return, I have an intelligent heating control, light control, intelligent control of the media center, alarm system.
On the other hand, I no longer have to spend money on the heating room control from the heating engineer, save myself 8 extra dimmers etc. pp.
So it really isn’t much more expensive than conventional.

Regards
 

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