Structural dimensions of windows; decisions between planning and construction

  • Erstellt am 2022-04-23 20:47:27

karl.jonas

2022-04-23 20:47:27
  • #1
Hello,
I have received the first draft of the floor plan from the architect. The windows are shown with a width of 180 cm. I suspect that this refers to the raw construction dimension that the bricklayer uses? So far, I thought such measurements should always be n * 12.5 + 1 cm (joint), which would result in 176 or 188.5 cm. I am attaching a picture.

Before I address this with the architect, I would like to know whether the mistake in reasoning is on my part (well, probably it is..)

We are also not yet certain about a few other questions. All will be decided before the respective awarding of contracts, but which of these must or should already be clarified for the building application?:

    [*]The roof is planned with a 20 degree pitch; the choice between tile and sheet metal is still open.
    [*]The upper floor will be open up to the ridge. However, some ceilings (e.g., WC) might be suspended.
    [*]Whether and where we install roof windows, we would also like to decide later.

(There are no external requirements, in particular no development plan)

Thank you very much for information and comments.
Karl
 

ypg

2022-04-23 20:50:31
  • #2
Which stone are you building with?
 

karl.jonas

2022-04-23 21:01:34
  • #3
24er Poroton (planning status). Should the planning primarily be based on the actual brick (and the windows be adjusted accordingly), or are there standard window widths and heights (as I thought) that determine (should determine) the clear dimension?
 

i_b_n_a_n

2022-04-23 21:37:54
  • #4
There are no standard windows anymore (maybe still at the hardware store?), all are made to custom measurements.
 

11ant

2022-04-24 01:00:49
  • #5
Your suspicion is correct. You were quite right with that when masonry was still significantly done with small formats. Nowadays, practically only modern jumbo formats without mortared joints are used, so the joint centimeter can be omitted from the calculation. >> here therefore the closest: 175 / 187.5 cm Proper practice is the application of the standard dimensions (effective for all bricks in the eight-centimeter grid*) to the masonry dimension (and consequently also to the masonry opening dimension). The window width is ideally measured in whole or half omitted bricks. It is sensible, not least because of the window sills, that the rhythm of the masonry bond continues across the openings. *) since in your project we had the question of reused bricks from a previous building: in the Reich format 1.83 m (14 header bricks + joint) would be the next "round" dimension. The same applies correspondingly to non-DIN clinker formats: the large and later "hidden" bricks of the structural masonry shell are naturally more economical to cut to the adjusted size than the small facing bricks.
 

karl.jonas

2022-04-24 01:14:02
  • #6
Thank you very much for the quick responses. That means I ask the architect to adjust the window widths to .

How about the three other points I mentioned? Do the decisions have until "after the building permit" time? Karl
 

Similar topics
23.10.2008We need an architect - or should I do it myself?14
02.01.2009Experiences with architects15
13.11.2013Do you absolutely need an architect?10
16.12.2013Pre-planning with the architect - is having your own floor plan sensible?18
30.01.2014Architect's cost estimation15
11.02.2015Cost planning for a single-family house including land, additional costs, architect32
29.10.2015Is it normal for the purchase of land to be tied to an architect?16
20.08.2016Should the house be planned by a general contractor or architects?30
27.10.2017Construction description by architects: Who has experience?13
07.02.2018Architect's suggestions disappointing - What next?32
16.02.2018Stress with the architect - naively signed the preliminary contract17
29.01.2019Responsibility of the architect in case of KfW interest and further matters148
27.08.2018New building shell construction selection: Choose a company or architects?52
11.07.2019Possibility of preliminary questions to architects23
13.01.2020Cost of house construction with an architect34
11.03.2020Architects invoice - Amount okay?13
01.07.2020Complete offer from the architect? Is the price reasonable?54
25.09.2024Architect search Munich + surrounding area (recommendations?)15
06.01.2022Problems with architects - approval procedures18
18.01.2023Architect performance phase 1-4 - Which documents are required?33

Oben