nordanney
2021-01-20 16:13:04
- #1
Gross? That would be 800€ net - awesome!I accepted a top offer last week. 40 modules with SolarEdge and power optimizers. 14 kWp. Price per kWp: 955 euros. Including installation etc
Strom-Cloud experiences vs. feed-in tariff?
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hippjoha
2021-01-20 17:55:05
- #2
At first glance, it reads well.
Questions that come to mind spontaneously are:
- Is the storage capacity sufficient for your own electricity consumption?
- How is the calculation if it differs with storage/self-consumption?
- What does the Senec storage cost compared to a freely purchased model?
- Don’t you need a power meter with the cloud solution (150€ per year)?
- Self-consumed electricity is not free (taxes!!!). They should be higher with the cloud, due to higher self-consumption (I at least assume that the cloud consumption is taxed analogously as an unpaid transfer of value like real self-consumption – taxation must occur somehow). Please include this in your calculation.
I suspect that in the end your savings will shrink considerably. Just the 150€ for the meter alone. If the storage is 1,200€ more expensive than a comparable freely purchased model, only 41€ per year remain over ten years. Then there is the tax issue.
The offer with the Senec storage was cheaper than the comparison offer with, for example, LG storage. It is about 1550 €/kWp including a 10kWh Senec storage and 9.8 kWp (Q.PEAK DUO-G6) including grid connection etc.
Whether the storage is sufficient for self-consumption remains to be seen... So far, it is all only on paper and based on the assumed 6500kWh per year.
The basic fee is apparently already included in the Senec package, so the 150€ is not needed there. I have to check the self-consumption or taxes from the cloud consumption; I haven’t found anything quickly. Does anyone know anything about this?
dhd82
2021-01-20 23:05:20
- #3
We are also getting a photovoltaic system, but have decided against a storage unit. Without having looked closely at the provider Senec, I immediately notice in the calculation that an electricity purchase price of 29 cents / kWh is assumed. In my opinion, this is set far too high; for example, we are currently paying 23.11 cents / kWh.
hippjoha
2021-01-21 23:20:30
- #4
We are also getting a photovoltaic system, but decided against a storage unit. Without having looked closely at the provider Senec, I immediately noticed in the calculation that a power purchase price of 29 cents / kWh is applied. In my opinion, that is way too high; we currently pay e.g. 23.11 cents / kWh
The 29 cents / kWh come from me or rather I briefly found it today at Check24. I was too lazy to look for my current electricity bill. Even with 24 cents, the cloud variant would be cheaper.
It would be interesting to know whether the consumption from the cloud counts as self-consumption (for tax purposes)?
nordanney
2021-01-22 08:30:49
- #5
It would be interesting to know whether the purchase from the cloud counts as own consumption (for tax purposes)?
I found something on that:
www dot Photovoltaik-magazine.de/2019/03/16/cloud-und-community-steuerlich-betrachtet/#:~:text=Die%20Kosten%20f%C3%BCr%20den%20R%C3%BCckbezug,Strom%20im%20Privathaushalt%20verbraucht%20wird.
The tax component is apparently not to be underestimated...
Among others
nordanney
2021-01-22 08:37:06
- #6
Additionally, there are many discussions on the [Photovoltaik Austauschseite], whose link I am also not allowed to include.