Single-family house planning with a granny flat - ~230m² - basement - gable roof

  • Erstellt am 2016-07-28 13:22:16

Jochen104

2016-07-29 11:46:29
  • #1
That’s exactly the idea I wanted to suggest :)

With the money you save with a "simple" solution, you can probably also pay for your son's small student apartment for a few semesters, for example :)
 

Bauexperte

2016-07-29 12:27:12
  • #2
Hello Sebastian,


I am not so sure about that, like you; that’s probably why I formulated it carefully. Also because our builders who decided on a granny flat in the single-family house have all housed family/Au Pair or rented it out.

On the other hand – what sense does it make to spend additional euros on designing a granny flat if the tax benefits are not used?


And at least 23.00 sqm – that is clear.

I just can’t get it into my head that this is supposed to be in compliance with the requirements. In plain language, it means that every single-family house builder instead of EUR 100,000 should take advantage of another EUR 100,000 of discounted funds; regardless of whether he offers rental space or not. Then the KFW "could" provide EUR 200,000 directly to each builder if the result/use remains the same? Is every builder who "only" takes advantage of EUR 100,000 for his new construction project the one who gets a raw deal?

But I also don’t understand that a granny flat is planned that is only supposed to be rented years later – when the first renovations are already due. Who knows what life will bring? Whether you leave your house feet first is today no more than a pious wish.

Maybe I will still find my error in thinking…




If you had read even a fraction of my posts here in the forum, you would surely have realized that I may be many things, but certainly not quick with accusations. Moreover – reading helps, I wrote exactly: "You should have this checked very carefully to see whether subsidy fraud must be assumed under your conditions." So I have by no means accused you of intent (small note).

Edit: I corrected my post regarding the KfW subsidy amounts/granny flat due to a hint from Sebastian.


Rhenish regards
 

ypg

2016-07-29 12:44:10
  • #3


Is that why you drew a quasi-terraced house variant? You only have one window on each side in the living rooms; I would rather orient myself to all four sides in a single-family house (whether with or without a granny flat). By the way: you can find house examples and designs on Pinterest, just enter keywords like floor plan, bright, and open ;) works also with granny flat :)
 

Sebastian79

2016-07-29 12:45:22
  • #4
Short answer: It's 100,000 euros that you get more with it ;)

And there are people who do it that way – friends of ours are building a fairly luxurious house for just under 500k (without a basement ;)), but with a [granny flat] on paper. There will never be a [granny flat], it will never be used for tax purposes (how could it) – it's only about the KfW subsidy.

The architect had advised them to do so and according to him, he does it like this in many buildings...

I think it's stupid, but oh well...
 

Bauexperte

2016-07-29 12:47:39
  • #5

Argh - I'll change it right away.

Thanks for pointing it out!

Rhenish greetings
 

86bibo

2016-07-29 13:09:00
  • #6
I don’t think a granny flat is so bad if it is intended for the family. But I wouldn’t do that if the children’s future is still so uncertain. Depending on how the entrance is designed, you might later be able to separate a part (for the offspring or tenants), but I would actually live in the here and now. Besides, you say you don’t want to maintain the large area and therefore will rent out 50m². Why does your son need 50m²? 20m² is more than enough and maybe a small bathroom added. In most cases in my acquaintance it is like this:
Option 1: The son studies/does an apprenticeship after school and still lives at home (costs, convenience, etc.). These children usually manage with the available space.
Option 2: Children move out to study, after/during the apprenticeship, and then basically never come back to the house.
As soon as the children want something “of their own,” they are 90% gone. In the parental home (even a granny flat) the parents are simply permanently nearby and therefore it is nothing of their own. That also includes own kitchen, own washing machine, etc., and many granny flats do not offer that.
50 years ago the world looked different. I have also lived with my parents again temporarily (once during my studies in my old childhood room, once in an 85m² rental apartment). Ultimately that brought me 250km further away to my own home now. My two siblings also have their own houses and my parents a house with 500m² of living space and 3 rental apartments inside. These were never built for us, but of course it was also their wish that someone of the offspring would move in there. Now they have 3 rental units in a house that was previously fully occupied by the family. The current tenants are great, but this situation was and is a huge adjustment for my parents (strangers in the house).
This is how it goes for many acquaintances and their parents. For example, from my school class only one out of 24 still lives in their parental home. Many of them have newly built in their parents’ hometown. This is (unfortunately) currently the rule and not the exception, and that is why I would never plan for how my children might possibly be accommodated with me in the house. I have been through these scenarios for 20 years.
I don’t want strangers in the house now or later. That is one of the main reasons for a home of one’s own. I need distance from other people and want to be able to decide for myself in my own four walls (volume, structural changes, lifestyle habits, etc.). Everyone sees that differently, but even the best tenants are not invisible.

First see what you actually need in living space. So besides bedroom, [KZ], kitchen, utility room, bathroom and living room: what is important to you? Hobby room, office, dressing room, fireplace room, conservatory, sauna, fitness room, etc. For most rooms there are rough standard sizes, e.g. bathroom=10-15m², children’s and bedrooms=14-18m², kitchen=10-15m², utility room=10m². You add these together + the size you would like for the living room, 20m² for circulation, and then you have the approximately required size. And I am sure you will find plenty of matching floor plan suggestions on the internet.
 

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