Single-family house floor plan before approval: Please provide opinions

  • Erstellt am 2016-04-20 17:36:48

matte

2016-04-21 10:30:40
  • #1
Sorry, but I kind of get the feeling that you just want to be prepared for every unlikely eventuality and have a room for it.

The first thing that strikes me is the issue with the children's rooms. You write about wanting 2 children but want to be prepared for 3 children. So you are planning from the start to have 3 children's rooms with at least 15m² each.
Now you write regarding the room above the garage that it could also become a guest room if another child is expected.
So 4 children after all?

In the original post, under space requirements, you write that you need 2 children's rooms and 1 guest room, which could later be used as a 3rd children's room.

But now you have 3 children's rooms, 1 guest room, and the huge room above the garage, which not only makes the whole building project enormously expensive but also requires you to accept quite a few compromises since the room also needs an access.
You have almost 32m² of hallway area alone on the ground floor and upper floor!
That makes a total of 5 rooms for guests/children and other eventualities.

First, you should consider how many children you actually want. There's nothing wrong with 2 OR 3. But there is a huge difference between 2 and 4, also regarding overall life planning.

Have you actually received a living space calculation?

If I roughly calculate:

Basement: 89m² + 51m² basemented garage
Ground floor: 90m² + garage
Upper floor: 90m² + 34m² *above the garage

So that makes 180m² for the house alone + 89m² basement, including the garage 214m² + 140m² basement.

But with 400,000 € that gets really tight - especially here in the south. I would even say that it won’t work; even in the version where I didn’t count the garage, it’s already tight.
The problem is not that the house cannot be smaller, but that you end up with such a size due to the aforementioned eventualities.
Regardless of whether 2, 3, or 4 children, the upper floor would at least benefit from a separate toilet. Ideally even a 2nd (children's) bathroom.

What’s interesting about the plan, despite the immense size, is that I find the house could still handle a few more square meters on the ground floor.
Are the living room furniture your actual ones? I know architects like to use such seating groups, but not everyone has that.
It’s best to furnish with your desired furniture.

I already mentioned the kitchen earlier, but if I hear that you cook fresh every day, it must be a room you also enjoy being in. The pantry simply takes away so much potential from the room, I don’t understand that.

I know the ground floor layout from my cousin, but they have a door from the hallway to the kitchen. Without that, I (and especially they) would go crazy if I had to take the detour every time. Consider this carefully.

All in all, I believe that if you don’t basement the garage and also don’t build over it, you won’t miss the rooms because you already have enough storage/hobby/basement space anyway.
What will happen with the basement rooms 1-4? Are they intended for something, or are they just there because you want to build with a basement?
Why not put the honey kitchen in 2 of these rooms and have an external basement staircase?
You would still have 2 rooms left.

No matter how I look at it, the house is way too big, while the most important rooms - living/cooking/eating - are just standard.
If you can and want to pay for all of this, no problem at all. However, not for 400,000 €.
 

bluminger

2016-04-21 12:21:23
  • #2
Hello Yvonne,

thank you for your answer.

By how much should the garage be moved forward and the bedroom and bathroom enlarged? The idea is very good, you just have to make sure that there is still enough space for children's room windows and for kitchen windows.

Thank you for the "not acceptable" objection to the bathroom, that definitely needs to be revised again.


Hello Matte,

thank you for your answer.

Room layout: the room downstairs is an office. Upstairs there are two children's rooms, a guest room, and a hobby room. If there should be three children, there will be three children's rooms, then the hobby room will just have to serve as a guest room sometimes. Four children are not planned.

Thanks for the hint about the kitchen door to the hallway, we will consider that. The pantry would have been nice, just for food. But it's not a must. The storage room is supposed to be for cleaning supplies, extended wardrobe, shoes, bags and such. In the bathroom downstairs, it would be nice to have space for a cabinet with towels etc.
 

bluminger

2016-04-21 12:28:58
  • #3
Hello Matte,

regarding the living room furniture: No, those are not our actual ones.

We still need to discuss the use of the basement rooms.

Yes, the ground floor could use more square meters. However, due to the building boundaries, we cannot make the house wider.
 

bluminger

2016-04-21 12:37:59
  • #4
Hello Manu,

thank you for your reply.

We will consider sliding doors as patio doors in the dining room, thanks for the tip.

Access to the terrace from the kitchen, as mentioned, needs to be weighed because we actually want the workspace facing south.

How would the layout be better?

The door to the storage room is not fixed yet. With the suggestion to move it to the center, you are stating the obvious.

We will reconsider the layout on the upper floor (see response to Yvonne). Do you have any tips there?

In the bathroom/sauna in the basement, there should also be a toilet as mentioned.
 

wrobel

2016-04-21 12:46:56
  • #5
Good morning


Unbelievable

120m² basement room with questionable use
and then a 10m² bathroom for 5 people which is also significantly restricted by sloping ceilings.

You have to really want to afford that


Olli
 

bluminger

2016-04-21 12:49:32
  • #6
Hello kbt,

the first plan without a covered garage actually had a larger bathroom. Yes, the problem is the access to the room above the garage...

No, the garage is not on the boundary. It has about 1.5m distance to a planned footpath.
 

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