Semi-detached house for 200K €?

Hello Alex,

Hello construction expert, what amount would you estimate per m³? It’s 1500€ per m², right?

Yes, that is correct. However, regarding your question, I have added a bit more for the two dormers and – if I remember correctly – I did not take into account that you want to build in Rhineland-Palatinate.

Why are there these two calculation bases here?

They are not only here, but also in real life outside :-)

Architects mostly calculate based on cubic meters of built space according to their lists; I prefer to work with euro values based on living area because, from my experience, they come closest to reality.

Best regards from the Rhineland

@ Ingo

Besides, what is that about Bulgaria and Romanians. They want to build and they can build. If Bauexperte believes that large construction companies only build with their own employed workers, then he himself lives in Bulgaria or in the Carpathians. Every larger construction company, I won’t name any names, makes a fortune and has subs from Bulgaria. Then naturally the overpriced gilded prices appear in the sales. After all, it was built by a German GmbH (but on the backs of Bulgaria).

Very few providers build with their own employed craftsmen; the ones operating nationwide and the low-cost providers definitely not.

€ 100.00/m[SUP]3[/SUP] – you should be careful not to save at the wrong end. What use is the small number at the bottom right if in the end botched work is delivered? No one has anything to give away – what do you think is the reason a company is willing to work within a radius of 400/500 km? Surely not because their services are in demand at their company headquarters. With a structural shell builder that might still be acceptable, but for all subsequent trades it is a loss-making business. Unless your “small but competent company” comes from the neighboring country.

Bauexperte can recalculate again. 200 TEUR divided by (generously) 650 m3 results for me (and also in Bulgaria, Romania and in Takatukaland “where many architects should build”) in 307 EUR/m3 and that is completely OK.

307 is more than the initially mentioned 250.

Rhenish greetings

Behind your unspoken statement "8 x 12 semi-detached house" there are a good 160 sqm of pure living space - without the attic. That is certainly not a small house!

I am (almost) sure that I know the names behind the supposed providers :-) Take a look in their BB/contracts and then we talk further. Nobody has anything to give away and a solidly built and valuable single-family house Kfw 70 costs on average € 1,500.00 per sqm/Living space; that’s a fact.

Rhenish greetings

If I calculate now... € 1,500.00 per sqm/Living space multiplied by 160 sqm of pure living space = € 240,000.00
then the offers more or less fit the calculation example or are not all costs included in the € 1,500.00?

No, just read posts 2 and 4 in this topic ... . :rolleyes:

I'm not an expert when it comes to house construction and I also don't know how house prices are in your area. But we had to gain our own experience with providers two years ago. I'm just giving you this as an example to consider:

We were offered a solid house, Tuscan style, turnkey, 170 m² living space, including land for €370,000. €120,000 was allocated to the land. Great offer, we thought. Until we really went into the details with the building plans. On the surface, everything looked wonderful. We definitely wanted a small change here or something else there, we still found gaps in the building plan that we only pointed out after the fifth review or were made aware of by friends. Mostly, these were not large amounts: maybe a hundred here, a thousand there. And after six weeks of negotiation, suddenly we had a house on paper with a price of over €420,000.

In the meantime, through contact with acquaintances and friends who have built, we came to the conclusion that at least in our area hardly any house with [Kfw 70] is built for less than €1800/m² anymore. With [Passiv] that increases up to a comfortable €2200/m². €1500 is only really possible if you want pure standard without any personal wishes. And that regardless of whether it’s a single-family house, a semi-detached house, or slightly less for a terraced house.

But as I said, these are just my own experiences :)

So we now have the final offer for €190,000 for 150m² of living space. "Only" for the house.