ChrisMehler
2020-05-08 13:54:31
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Hello dear forum,
we are currently working on a condominium that meets all the criteria relevant to us regarding room layout, size, and location (and of course price...). The challenge with this construction lies in the bathroom, which doesn't really exist yet but would have to be created first.
Currently, in the planned area there is a separate toilet, a shower with a sink, and a hallway (which used to lead to the kitchen, but now leads to the left). See picture 1:

Unfortunately, the entire partition wall between the toilet and the shower cannot be torn down, as ventilation pipes are located in the upper third (approx. 60 cm), which also run through the apartment above and below. A "wall" with the 3 pipes measuring about 25 x 60 cm would therefore have to remain in any case.
Since we are fans of somewhat separate toilets anyway, this is not a big deal for us. Here we would simply remove the first meter of the existing partition wall from the upper half so that from the toilet's perspective there is a half-high partition wall, which then transitions into a floor-to-ceiling base.
There are now two basic ideas:
Picture 2: The exterior walls remain as they are and only the sink is moved to the next wall (where the passage to the kitchen used to be). Since ideally we want to accommodate the washing machine and dryer in the bathroom, the spot of the former sink fits the washing machine + dryer tower and behind it a (preferably) floor-level shower:

However, since in the next few years our already 2-year-old son might get a sibling, we also considered possibly installing a bathtub with a shower option. For this, we thought about moving the upper wall (drywall) 40 cm into the spacious living-dining area. The gained space would be used for a slightly larger washbasin with the washing machine and dryer underneath (I have seen something like this installed once and found it quite cleverly solved).
The critical question for me as a layperson is: How do we get the supply and drain pipes to this opposite wall?
The floor would have to be redone anyway, but I have read here and there that water pipes through the floor should only be a "last" resort? What is your opinion on this?

As you can see: a tricky task that is actually starting to cost me some sleep The apartment stands or falls with the bathroom and I am grateful for any helpful advice – many thanks in advance, looking forward to your tips.
Many greetings from Ravensburg,
Chris
we are currently working on a condominium that meets all the criteria relevant to us regarding room layout, size, and location (and of course price...). The challenge with this construction lies in the bathroom, which doesn't really exist yet but would have to be created first.
Currently, in the planned area there is a separate toilet, a shower with a sink, and a hallway (which used to lead to the kitchen, but now leads to the left). See picture 1:
Unfortunately, the entire partition wall between the toilet and the shower cannot be torn down, as ventilation pipes are located in the upper third (approx. 60 cm), which also run through the apartment above and below. A "wall" with the 3 pipes measuring about 25 x 60 cm would therefore have to remain in any case.
Since we are fans of somewhat separate toilets anyway, this is not a big deal for us. Here we would simply remove the first meter of the existing partition wall from the upper half so that from the toilet's perspective there is a half-high partition wall, which then transitions into a floor-to-ceiling base.
There are now two basic ideas:
Picture 2: The exterior walls remain as they are and only the sink is moved to the next wall (where the passage to the kitchen used to be). Since ideally we want to accommodate the washing machine and dryer in the bathroom, the spot of the former sink fits the washing machine + dryer tower and behind it a (preferably) floor-level shower:
However, since in the next few years our already 2-year-old son might get a sibling, we also considered possibly installing a bathtub with a shower option. For this, we thought about moving the upper wall (drywall) 40 cm into the spacious living-dining area. The gained space would be used for a slightly larger washbasin with the washing machine and dryer underneath (I have seen something like this installed once and found it quite cleverly solved).
The critical question for me as a layperson is: How do we get the supply and drain pipes to this opposite wall?
The floor would have to be redone anyway, but I have read here and there that water pipes through the floor should only be a "last" resort? What is your opinion on this?
As you can see: a tricky task that is actually starting to cost me some sleep The apartment stands or falls with the bathroom and I am grateful for any helpful advice – many thanks in advance, looking forward to your tips.
Many greetings from Ravensburg,
Chris