Reference current construction prices / Build now or wait?

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Mausimaus

2023-10-21 11:30:56
  • #1
We have 5 years from the purchase of the plot until it must be completed. But we are currently also inclined to start right away. It will certainly take several months until we have decided with whom we want to build. Of course, we have a development plan and know the individual building envelopes. But in fact, we only begin the concrete planning once we have the plot. My point was more about how we can best inform ourselves about the prices.
 

Nida35a

2023-10-21 11:42:01
  • #2

One way would be,
with rough wishes and ideas, to ask a few prefabricated house manufacturers in a model house park for an offer.
There you have a price range for information.
Under no circumstances sign anything there, no matter if the great price expires in one day.
Compare floor plans and exact room sizes there to get a feel for the necessary room sizes for you.
Walk through the house with acquaintances using a tape measure.
 

kati1337

2023-10-21 12:27:44
  • #3
Prices also depend significantly on your wishes, the equipment standard, and your willingness to contribute your own work. This is difficult to estimate on a superficial level. Therefore, go a bit deeper early on in the planning.
 

Mausimaus

2023-10-21 13:26:28
  • #4
Thank you for the hint. In fact, we already know in great detail what we want. We have written everything down and are currently having it drawn. Since we are both busy professionally and have children, we are not planning to contribute any own work.
 

kati1337

2023-10-21 14:07:07
  • #5


Realizing that about own labor is already worth gold. We needed two houses for that. ;) When I meant detailed planning, I was also referring to things like: Is a standard sanitary installation okay for you, or do you want the countertop washbasin, etc. Tile prices also have a range; we were quite surprised. We had a very comprehensive basic contract with the general contractor, and afterward, additional costs arose for: baseboards (extra charge for different look), tiles & floor coverings (extra charge for more expensive per m² prices than in the contract), kitchen almost €6000 more expensive than planned, windows (extra charge for bars, lift-slide element), extra charge for glass railing instead of masonry railing, extra charge for wooden handrail, spots, electrical, sanitary equipment, final cleaning. Think about what you want/need in advance. Spots cost money because they add up quickly. But traditional lighting also costs money. Every light point needs a lamp.

These were just examples from our side. Depending on your wishes and contract services, it can vary a lot for you, of course. You can also spend three times as much for window sills as stated in the contract. Inside and outside. ;) If you go looking for a partner to build with, it's best to get the construction service descriptions handed over to you right away, not just colorful catalogs. And study those things. Because ideally, everything the general contractor does is described precisely there. And what is not listed there, he usually does not do. Also, everything that is marked with "by the builder" you must do yourself or have done at your own cost.
 

11ant

2023-10-21 14:10:08
  • #6
Honestly, I don’t understand the problem behind your question. If you allow yourselves a "Yes!" to the question "Can it be a little more?" not only at the sausage counter (for 270 g instead of half a pound) but also in the real estate market (for 600 instead of 400 sqm of building land) and can afford to develop that with at least the assumption of 3k per sqm with 190 sqm living space plus a granny flat, then you apparently only know money problems from TV. In that case, you wouldn’t have the slightest concern about whether and to what extent building will become more expensive. Even being able to afford 600 sqm of land speaks for solid finances and/or that the Stuttgart metropolitan area is defined very broadly and we are not talking about Rutesheim or Ditzingen, but at best about the "Greater Leinfelden Area" (?)


Just imagine the time back: five years ago (= before Corona), ten years or more (before Lothar, before Kyrill, ...). Since then, construction loan interest rates have sometimes fallen, but construction and other prices have also risen. These are not events that occur as rarely as Halley’s comet. Suppose Putin / Hamas or the like were history next year and Habeck’s “heating ban” as well, chip shortages or delivery difficulties for heat pumps no longer existed (there are still people who believe a good fairy is born every morning). There are reasons why I called my info blog "Building now," because no luck for the hesitant is in sight. Betting on falling prices is for fools who want to become poorer (in terms of purchasing power). Time does not heal prices. Even Kostolany would never have gotten rich by waiting if the thread of crises had once broken.


There is no "or" before an architect here. Construction companies and prefab home providers like to advertise that you don’t have to pay extra for architectural services, but they expressly refer to "necessary" architectural services, i.e., those required to obtain a building permit. And of course, they let customers move the windows around the facade until everything looks balanced for symmetry fanatics, or draw several appearance simulations for them. Nevertheless, I recommend never going to a general contractor instead of an architectural planning and tendering (regardless of whether masonry or "wood").

As someone currently also professionally a construction consultant and overall with four decades of experience in owner-occupied home planning, I can assure you that every saved architect fee can be transferred 1:1 to the cost item "surprises," and the large fee portion for service phase 5 in particular pays off fully. In service phases 6 and 7, it is even the case that building without proper tendering will be more expensive (the only exception: with employee discounts at the building material dealer, you can compensate so far that you effectively end up with zero savings).

If you now go "unprotected" through an architect to a construction company (as said, regardless of the building method), they can name prices for you. But these must be treated with the same caution as those estimated by an expert at the current planning stage. They will give you prices for (including the granny flat) 220 sqm that would make you think the warners are all pessimistic doom-mongers and building is actually cheaper than thought. But even without future price increases, it would only fit in the end if you finance and trim painfully.


That’s very good – as well as that you want to select the masonry builders from the region. They are usually more recommendable and won’t beat you down with their legal departments like the big names with their fancy brochures in case of complaints.


Who have you chosen for this drawing? Freelance architects (mostly at the cand.arch. stage) are a suitable address, less so draftsmen. It’s already very good not to have concocted an amateur plan yourself. But you better go to the architect afterwards, despite the drawing, at first only with the requirement and wish list.


That is a very important point. That rules out all self-builders (Allkauf Haus, Massa Haus etc.) already, and actually also turnkey discounters like Scanhaus Marlow & Co.
Resist the fallacy that a general contractor is "the solution"!

I recommend the following approach:
1. Read the existing threads here with the forum search terms like "housebuilding schedule," "Gerddieter," "individual awarding"/"own awarding" concerning the procedure for house planning;
2. now visit construction companies and model home exhibitions. Choose providers for higher demands with caution (you will need the buffer) and consider stalking by salespeople, i.e., create a disposable email address and a prepaid dumb phone;
3. go to financing advisors and also get a building plot appraisal;
4. commission a freelance architect with service phases 1 and 2 ("Module A" see "A house building schedule, also for you: the HOAI phase model!" - external, so search with quotes);
5. during the dough rising phase, go again – now with the architect’s preliminary draft – to construction companies and house manufacturers (this time in the actually suitable market segment), meanwhile you or the architect submit the building preliminary request;
6. derive from the feedback of your price inquiry a decision whether to plan service phase 3 (design) in masonry or wood and commission the architect for the further process (see contributions on the above-mentioned keywords).
 

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