Superdad
2017-04-29 08:50:10
- #1
So, a little update from my side. This week I had about 1000 conversations, my head is spinning.
As it looks, we are saying goodbye to the idea of financing the additional purchase costs. There are enough banks/institutions that would cover it, but the monthly burden is too high for us and therefore too much risk. This means for us first saving for 2-3 years. Without a broker, even rather 1-2 years.
I have already forgotten some providers again, there were too many. PDS, Münchener Hypothekenbank, Postbank, regional banks and so on...
To name a few numbers and facts. We remember it was a purchase price of €345,000 and additional purchase costs of €48,000. Most providers split it as follows: €295,000 mortgage loan (2% effective 10 years, best provider) + €48,000 subordinated loan (most do this with Hanseatic, 6.6% effective but paid off within 10 years to zero) + €50,000 KfW 1.4% effective.
Then you would have a monthly burden of about €1750.
Calculated over 15 years, the mortgage loan rises to about 2.6% and therefore, of course, the monthly burden increases.
Postbank created a very wild construct with €345,000 loan over 10 years at 2.44% and the additional purchase costs in a private loan with 6,x%. Whereas the additional purchase costs would not even be zero after 10 years. But I don't want that.
Requirement for all was mortgage loan repayment at least 2%.
I also had a calculation made, what would happen if we had the additional purchase costs and simply only financed the purchase price. That looked really good and is also our idea. With a 10-year fixed interest, we would come out at 1.7% effective, with 15 years at 2.1%. The monthly rate would then also be what we imagine.
Again to the critics, because the terms are 30 years or even more. Honestly, I don’t care about that for now. Maybe a personal mistake, but if I think like some do here, then ideally I should never buy a house. The risk is always there, what if divorce, unemployment, incapacity, etc. etc. I can’t exclude that even with €100,000 equity.
Edit: I take away a lot of experience, finally have concrete numbers and the certainty that no matter what, there are enough who would finance us. The monthly burden would be bearable, but as said, too much risk, calculated too tightly at the end. Now we could save here and there and cut back, etc. But we both believe, we don’t want to lose quality of life just so we have our own home. Of course, everyone sees it differently. To put it bluntly, it’s more important to us to go out for a nice meal or take great trips with the kids than to necessarily own a home and give up those things.
As it looks, we are saying goodbye to the idea of financing the additional purchase costs. There are enough banks/institutions that would cover it, but the monthly burden is too high for us and therefore too much risk. This means for us first saving for 2-3 years. Without a broker, even rather 1-2 years.
I have already forgotten some providers again, there were too many. PDS, Münchener Hypothekenbank, Postbank, regional banks and so on...
To name a few numbers and facts. We remember it was a purchase price of €345,000 and additional purchase costs of €48,000. Most providers split it as follows: €295,000 mortgage loan (2% effective 10 years, best provider) + €48,000 subordinated loan (most do this with Hanseatic, 6.6% effective but paid off within 10 years to zero) + €50,000 KfW 1.4% effective.
Then you would have a monthly burden of about €1750.
Calculated over 15 years, the mortgage loan rises to about 2.6% and therefore, of course, the monthly burden increases.
Postbank created a very wild construct with €345,000 loan over 10 years at 2.44% and the additional purchase costs in a private loan with 6,x%. Whereas the additional purchase costs would not even be zero after 10 years. But I don't want that.
Requirement for all was mortgage loan repayment at least 2%.
I also had a calculation made, what would happen if we had the additional purchase costs and simply only financed the purchase price. That looked really good and is also our idea. With a 10-year fixed interest, we would come out at 1.7% effective, with 15 years at 2.1%. The monthly rate would then also be what we imagine.
Again to the critics, because the terms are 30 years or even more. Honestly, I don’t care about that for now. Maybe a personal mistake, but if I think like some do here, then ideally I should never buy a house. The risk is always there, what if divorce, unemployment, incapacity, etc. etc. I can’t exclude that even with €100,000 equity.
Edit: I take away a lot of experience, finally have concrete numbers and the certainty that no matter what, there are enough who would finance us. The monthly burden would be bearable, but as said, too much risk, calculated too tightly at the end. Now we could save here and there and cut back, etc. But we both believe, we don’t want to lose quality of life just so we have our own home. Of course, everyone sees it differently. To put it bluntly, it’s more important to us to go out for a nice meal or take great trips with the kids than to necessarily own a home and give up those things.