Question about surveying a property regarding the input plan

Hello everyone. I am completely new to the forum and have a question right away. I will be building a house at the end of the year and have the following situation: I bought a plot of land from a municipality in a new development area. It is fully developed, with a sewer on the property, etc. The plot is located in a new development area that was completely newly "created." Before, there was only meadow there. Now I have a construction company with which I want to build. The architect of this company says that for the submission planning he needs a surveyor to record the heights and boundary stones, etc. According to the offer, this surveyor costs 1300 euros. The man from the municipality says that all the data the architect needs can be taken from the official documents. Who has experience here? Who can tell me if I still have to have the plot surveyed? As far as I know, the surveying office will come again later to measure the finished building. How often do we actually measure? Land for sale, then again for construction and when it is finished once more? These are not insignificant costs! Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards from Augsburg

Now I have a house building company with which I want to build. The architect of this company now says that for the input planning he needs a surveyor who records the heights and boundary stones etc. This surveyor costs 1300 euros according to the offer.

The man from the municipality says that all data the architect needs can be taken from the official documents.

Who has experience here? Who can tell me if I still need to have the property surveyed again?

The architect is right. I wasn't sure – I work in NRW – but a look at the Administrative Service Bavaria's website brought clarity:

Required Documents

[*]current extract from the cadastral register [*]site plan, as long as it is not about changes to structural facilities where exterior walls and roofs as well as the usage are not changed

and further documents

In the so-called preliminary site plan, all heights and sewer locations are drawn in, which are needed to determine the placement of the new building on the property as well as its connection to public utilities.

How often do we actually measure? Property for sale, then again for construction and once it is finished again?

Once for the surveying of the property when purchasing it and 4 times for the house construction.

Edit: the surveyor is needed a total of 4 times; sorry, I formulated that unclearly.

Rhenish greetings

Hello construction expert,

thank you for your response.

Regards
Mac

Not quite, you need the surveyor 3 times
- Site plan for the building application (engineering service approx. 800 - 1000 Euro)
- Setting out of the foundation (engineering service approx. 400-500 Euro)
- surveying of the finished rising masonry, shortly after completion of the house or upon request by the cadastral office
(according to the fee schedule of the federal state 300-700 Euro)

Ergänzung d. Mod bzgl. Einmessung Kataster: In NRW z.B generell €830.- netto zzgl. MwSt. für Herstellungskosten bis 300T€ (ohne Grundstück) - Aussagen zu Kosten halte ich grundsätzlich für äußerst bedenklich. Die Kosten für die Einmessung eines Einfamilienhaus mit Herstellungskosten von +300T€ betragen in NRW bereits €1350.- zzgl. MwSt.; das sind brutto über 900€ / 130% mehr, als Du angegeben hast.

For comparison, the municipal utilities get 1200 Euro for a lousy gas connection, unfair world.

As a rule, a development plan area is marketed by a city-near development company or a private investor. Either a land consolidation procedure according to the Federal Building Code is carried out, a partitioning, or a "normal" survey. However, the buyers have nothing to do with this; the surveying costs for the division of the parcels are included in the purchase price. It may be that boundary points are not yet marked; here, one must check the purchase contract a bit to ensure that this point is regulated. The investor can waive marking internally; the marking obligation in this case applies only to public traffic areas. A small excursion into cadastral law

Note Mod: This is the regulation (presumably) in MV. Cadastral laws in other federal states sometimes have significant deviations. In NRW, for example, there is basically a marking obligation for property boundaries. Therefore, always check the respective state laws.

It is best to call the surveyor involved in the project; surveyors have a helper syndrome.

Not quite, you need the surveyor 3 times

[*]Anyone who buys a property that is not yet registered as an independent property in the land register and cadastre (e.g., in a newly developed residential area) needs a surveyor for the so-called subdivision survey. This is necessary to apply for the registration in the land register and to initiate entries there (financing).
[*]To prepare the building application, a preliminary site plan is required. Once the design planning is completed, it is sent to the surveyor so that they can enter the ground floor in the site plan and verify the setback distances.
[*]Rough and fine staking out
[*]Surveying of the finished building for the cadastral office

Rhenish regards