Poroton or lime sand stone

  • Erstellt am 2016-09-15 15:09:59

cg3980

2016-09-23 13:13:34
  • #1
Our concerns about the calcium silicate brick solution are not directed against the stone itself, but rather the necessity of the ETICS, which we actually do not want because of algae growth and durability (we have some examples in the neighborhood where the outlines of the panels can be seen)!

Is it really the case that with monolithic construction using Poroton, the risk of mold formation due to thermal bridges is increased? Or rather, that with ETICS the mold risk is significantly reduced because the thermal bridges are insulated?
 

Legurit

2016-09-23 13:19:53
  • #2
If executed reasonably properly, you have no risk of mold with either variant... Besides [WDVS], there is also the possibility of a two-shell construction ([Klinker]).
 

cg3980

2016-09-23 13:28:35
  • #3
Thank you for the assessment! Clinker is visually not desired and probably also too expensive. But then the thermal bridge issue is not an argument against the brick as such – even if subsequent "wrapping" may be easier from the planning side. Then the question arises why the architect resists the brick so much. After all, it is his task to plan it in such a way that thermal bridges are minimized...
 

Legurit

2016-09-23 13:33:30
  • #4
Something like this is not always rational – you are simply convinced of something or not – or have had experiences or not. As already mentioned here, you have a separation of functions with KS and VDVS and a mixture with [Ziegel].
 

toxicmolotof

2016-09-23 13:49:16
  • #5
No cracks in the stone, the cracks appear in the joints and at the transition to other materials, e.g. to the concrete ceiling. If the stone is not plastered or wallpapered after plastering, you simply do not see such things. But believe me... they are there...
 

Tego12

2016-09-23 14:17:58
  • #6
The structure is totally secondary, the main thing is that the company carrying out the work is familiar with the system. If you live in the house and everything is properly executed, you will never notice a difference (ok, except when drilling...). Indoor climate is identical, exceptions prove the rule (for example, if you live on a main road and need a lot of sound insulation, KS is probably superior).

Personally, I am a fan of functional separation, meaning stone + ETICS, but that is simply a matter of taste and I would have been fine with anything as long as my main contractor has a lot of experience with the system...
 

Similar topics
12.12.2019Solid house: Which stone / brick?23
07.09.2012Single-layer masonry vs. double-layer masonry with ETICS19
31.01.2012Plan stones behind ETICS, plan stone variant or joint masonry, costs13
13.04.2012ETICS, exterior wall, insulation, energy experts' experience reports19
14.01.2013Cracks in plaster facade WDVS (expansion joints?)11
23.08.201317.5 Poroton + 16 WDVS or 36.5 Aerated concrete19
25.11.2013Exterior wall with ETICS or exterior wall with lightweight plaster?23
29.08.2015Exterior masonry made of aerated concrete and interior walls made of brick?16
16.09.2014Ventilation in prefab houses (wood frame with ETICS) also in solid houses?36
30.01.2015New building exterior facade clinker/plaster12
25.08.2015Clinker for bungalow13
16.02.2016Shell construction: Cracked bricks11
19.06.2016Insulation reveal window WDVS and clinker plus transition12
21.01.2018Clinker or plaster facade - What cost differences?10
18.07.2021Unfilled bricks and soundproofing - looking for experiences36
02.11.2020Exterior walls 24cm hollow bricks: WDVS or Poroton T7?29
20.02.2021Exterior wall for KFW 40 (+) with or without ETICS?86
15.06.2023VHF vs WDVS facade - 1970 old building concrete/brick15
17.05.2023Same price: Kfw55 with Poroton monol. OR Kfw40 with Poroton WDVS?31
15.05.2024Wall construction in solid construction method - experiences?25

Oben